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Teachers are not people

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Andvare, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. Andvare

    Andvare King

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    http://www.latimes.com/news/politic...unions-contributions-20120925,0,4439245.story

    I actually agree that only private persons should be able to donate anything. In fact, the best solution would be no donations at all. But how on earth can he defend this, and still defend that corporations can donate any amount they want?
     
  2. BvBPL

    BvBPL Pour Decision Maker

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    He's a flipflopper with no objective code defining his behavior. That's how.
     
  3. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Teachers are no corporations, so obviously they aren't people either.
     
  4. Masada

    Masada Koi-san!

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    why the hate for citizens united?
     
  5. Ailedhoo

    Ailedhoo wonderer

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    Without teachers the current gain in societies would not be. Education enlights. Mitt needs to start considering making freinds then creating hordes upon hordes of foes to his rule... o wait he made the hordes when he dismissed a high portion of the population. Mitt has a odd plan to get votes.
     
  6. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    Really I would prefer that a set amount of money is allocated to the candidates rather than all this private money being thrown around.
     
  7. amadeus

    amadeus めっちゃしんどい

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    I hereby announce my intent to run for President of the United States.

    Now give me government money.

    edit: I have X signed supporters in Y states.
     
  8. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    You could easily add clauses requiring you to have X signed supporters in Y states to avoid such misuse.
     
  9. jtb1127

    jtb1127 Deity

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    You guys are talking about teachers and the teachers union as if they're one in the same. Though I agree with the OP in that it's a contradiction to permit corps from donating but not the NEA, I'd like to point out that the NEA does a lot of crap and being against it does not mean your against teachers. "Without teachers the current gain in societies would not be. Education enlights"
    This isn't the case.
     
  10. BvBPL

    BvBPL Pour Decision Maker

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    So the NEA does a lot of crap. Big whoop. Why should it, as an organization, have any less of a potential voice, in terms of the potential to spend money, than a commercial organization? Or the Knights of Columbus?
     
  11. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    That's funny because it outlines one of the biggest problems with American politics: money.

    Why is it a problem? Because it puts power in the hands of people who have money and takes it away from those who do not, in what is supposed to be a democratic, everyone-is-equal system.

    He is right about some unions being overpowered though. Some people are incredibly hard to fire, even if they're as incompetent as a moldy rock, which humorously enough would be an apt comparison to romney as well.
     
  12. luiz

    luiz Trendy Revolutionary

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    How about a compromise where candidates can still accept private money (I too hate idea of publicly funded campaigns) but we limit the amount they can spend?

    In my view political campaigns should be boring and informative, not the Hollywood-esque spectacle we see in most democracies. And those hyper-expensive campaigns make the politicians start their term already in huge debt to their main contributors, undermining their independence.
     
  13. downtown

    downtown Crafternoon Delight

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    Nobody negotiates in the interest of the students...certainly not the city. Of all the stakeholders, teachers are the most likely to go to bat for things that will help students, but those interests do not always overlap.

    And yes, if we're going to say its okay for Exxon to spend a gazillion dollars, or a casino, then teachers better be able to as well.
     
  14. AlpsStranger

    AlpsStranger Jump jump on the tiger!

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    There's just one little problem: teachers are too liberal, so of course their donations have to be stopped.

    Jeeze, why can't you guys get with the program here? Destroying liberalism is a matter of national security, and Romney is doing the best he can without a sniper rifle and a clear shot at Rachel Maddow.

    This is hard! /Ann Romney
     
  15. Valka D'Ur

    Valka D'Ur Hosting Iron Pen in A&E Retired Moderator

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    All that money and it still couldn't buy Romney a conscience. :(

    What kind of classes for parents - how to be parents? How to indoctrinate kids to the "true faith" while helping them with their math homework? Teaching the parents to read? The article doesn't go into that...

    And apparently Romney thinks poor parents only work Mondays - Fridays. :rolleyes:
     
  16. hobbsyoyo

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    I don't understand the logic behind Romney's statement. It's completely indefensible.

    Oh wait, teachers bad m'kay?
     
  17. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    The Romney campaign only supports football referee unions. It is funny how football turns conservatives into liberals. All of a sudden, they support unions, publically financed infrastructure, and select universities.
     
  18. downtown

    downtown Crafternoon Delight

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    Not to mention salary caps and massive wealth redistribution!
     
  19. Murky

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    We need career teachers a whole lot more than we need private equity firms like Bain Capital.
     
  20. JohnRM

    JohnRM Don't make me destroy you

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    So very this.
     

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