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Term 4 - Nominations for Minister of Defense

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Game of Democracy IV' started by Bootstoots, Mar 24, 2004.

  1. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    1 - With our huge cashflow, I would push for upgrades to Pikemen, and push for horsemen to be built, for upgrades to knights when we learn Chivalry. The warriors are still good for escorts, and Interior garrisons.

    2 - Babylon, since they're our neighbor. The other continent is of no threat as of yet, since they can't cross the ocean. Once Persia acquires Astronomy, though, they will become more of a threat. Egypt isn't much of a threat militarily, as the AI can't handle land invasions well, but they'remore of a culture threat, though not as great as Babylon.

    3. Not at the moment. First, we'd need to build up our forces, AND build up our infrastructure. During the Babylonian War, we were still on the weak side in terms of infrastructure. Having 30 knights doesn't help when you can only produce 1 knight per turnchat (10 turns).

    4. I'd focus more on Babylon. I would have the warriors upgraded, and have the swords head towards the Egyptian colonies. The last Babylonian stack started to come from our south. I'd also like to see some catapults start to be in construction so that we can bombard any stack that approaches. My first goal in the Babylonian campaign would be the 2 cities closest to our future FP site. I would only take interior Babylonian cities if we were strong enough (i.e., Babylon isn't putting up much of a counter attack). With Egypt, I'd have gallies set up as "Sentries" to watch for incoming Egyptians. I'd also have 2-3 fast units (knights), and a few swords on hand to provide any needed defense in the north. (Remember that the AI can't handle naval invasions well).

    5. Cavalry-type units. Second would be artillery, and then Infantry. We need knights. Currently, Knights will have the defense of a pikeman, and they are faster than catapults. Once we head into the Age of Gunpowder, Musketeers will be important (with one catch. They *WILL* start our Golden Age!). This is where you start to have Muskets for defense of the knight stack, and attack from the shortest possible route. I would incourage governors to build catapults, especially for cannon upgrades, should we get there next term. I'd also push for city walls in our border cities, just in case Babylon decides to attack again. The first pikes will be in border cities, like Mure, Acheron, Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.

    6. Logistics. That is, War Infrastructure. Before we can have a successful army, we need one that won't feed off of economic-based upgrades. The next is a mobile army. Knights.
     
  2. Donovan Zoi

    Donovan Zoi The Return

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    Oh, through the Edit feature as well? Nice.
     
  3. Strider

    Strider In Retrospect

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    What did you expect him to do? Use the delete option? :rolleyes:
     
  4. Donovan Zoi

    Donovan Zoi The Return

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    Ah Strider, ever the loyal apologist.......

    I would expect our Military candidate to use another post like everyone else, instead of masking his true feelings from the public by editting them away.

    The people of Fanatica are not getting the complete picture here, although most could guess what actually happened. ;)
     
  5. Chieftess

    Chieftess Moderator Retired Moderator

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    DZ - I think you've been reading XIII's conspiracy theory forum too much. ;)
     
  6. Donovan Zoi

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    We have a conspiracy theory forum? [dance] :D

    While this small matter pales in comparison to who really killed John Lennon and Kurt Cobain, and the fact that Jim Morrison and Elvis still walk among us(actually Elvis died of natural causes last week), I still think that all evidence of wishy-washyness should be kept public record. :)

    I know that in the past, when I switched my preference mid-noms, I left everything public. That is not being done here.
     
  7. Sarevok

    Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator

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    :lol: :lol:

    That was very good CT! :goodjob:
     
  8. Sarevok

    Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator

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    Overall, I have the same state of mind as you do in all of these subjects. The only difference is that i see a need to have a good navy partolling our shores. Overall though it is exactly what I would do. I await to hear CG's response to my questions.
     
  9. Peri

    Peri Vote early and vote often

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    Not to worry. I understand that there will be a DVD released soon of 'As the Chat Room Turns'. ;) Alternatively people could Tivo the episodes they miss. Just trying to be helpful. ;)
     
  10. GenMarshall

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    @DZ - I am not going to spam up the Election Nominations treads. So I would rather use the edit feature to change the original message rather than posting 2 post in the span of 2 minutes in the same thread.
     
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  12. Sarevok

    Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator

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    interesting... this is roughly the same thing CT said as well. This will be an interesting race to watch.
     
  13. Chieftess

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    :lol: @ CG and DZ. You two sound just like Strider and Shaitan when they spammed up the election threads. ;)

    Anyway, back on topic. :p


    Maybe I should've let CG answer first... :mischief:
     
  14. Donovan Zoi

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    Well, don't. It's the underhanded way to go about it. Although it is good to see that you are finally concerned with spam. ;)

    BTW, great platform. Where were you when I needed to paraphrase War and Peace and pass it off as my own work? :lol:
     
  15. Chieftess

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    Enough threadjacking. :p
     
  16. Sarevok

    Sarevok Civ3 Scenario Creator

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    indeed. I have seen both of your posts, and because they are the same, i will at this time watch for a few days to see how you conduct yourselves during this election.
     
  17. Peri

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    I think it is rather obvious which candidate thought carefully about her answer and which candidate just used CTRL C and CTRL V. :mischief:

    As a tip. The secret to good 'intertextuality' is not to use the same writing style as the other person. Also make the other person's ideas appear to be your own by explaining your reasoning in a totally different way. Also avoid the same use of idiom and sentence construction. I hope this helps for your next post. ;)
     
  18. Chieftess

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    Ok, I'm gonna ask a rebuttal question to CivGeneral.

    Suppose we take Babylon (the city), and decide to stop there, but there is still 5 resistors in a size 12 city, with 8 tiles under AI control. The bulk of our army is in Babylon. Babylon's culture outnumbers us 10 to 1. The people demand that we not let the Babylonians have their former capital. We are at peace now. What do you do? How safe/dangerous is the current situation?


    BTW, CG - If my post were copyrighted, then you would be breaking a forum rule... essentially, taking credit for something that isn't your own work.
     
  19. Sarevok

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    CG' is gonna be pissed when he reads that. Better get your flamethrowers ready :)
     
  20. ybbor

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    #1. CG: With the increase of our income. ...I will push for upgrades from Spears to Pike men...so that I can upgrade Horsemen to knights. I would still use our small crack force of warriors as MPs and Settler escort.
    #1CT:With our huge cashflow, I would push for upgrades to Pikemen, ...for upgrades to knights when we learn Chivalry. The warriors are still good for escorts, and Interior garrisons.

    #2. CG: ...Babylonians... they are our closets neighbor in the region. The rest pose no treat to us since they are on another continent...they have insufficient techs to cross the ocean. Once Persia obtains Astronomy, then they would be a mild treat to us.
    #2 CT: Babylon, since they're our neighbor. The other continent is of no threat as of yet, since they can't cross the ocean. Once Persia acquires Astronomy, though, they will become more of a threat...

    #3. CG: ...I need to build up our forces and work with the domestic and local governors to develop the infrastructure
    #3 CT: Not at the moment. First, we'd need to build up our forces, AND build up our infrastructure....

    4. CG: I would focus more on the Babylonian Front. I would upgrade any warriors that are needed to swords and have them go to Egypt’s colonies. I wish to see more catapults to be constructed so that we can use them to soften up the Babylonian defense. My first goal in the Babylonian campaign would be the 2 cities closest to our future FP site. I would only take interior Babylonian cities if we were strong enough. I would create and use the galleys to blockade the Egyptian colonies and to use them as sentries. I would use about 2-3 Knights and a few swords to provide any needed defense.
    #4 CT:I'd focus more on Babylon. I would have the warriors upgraded, and have the swords head towards the Egyptian colonies...I'd also like to see some catapults start to be in construction so that we can bombard any stack that approaches. My first goal in the Babylonian campaign would be the 2 cities closest to our future FP site. I would only take interior Babylonian cities if we were strong enough...With Egypt, I'd have gallies set up as "Sentries"... I'd also have 2-3 fast units (knights), and a few swords on hand to provide any needed defense...


    5. CG:First is the Cavalry Units...then the Artillery/Siege units...and lastly the infantry. Currently, Knights will have the defense of a pike man, and they are faster than catapults...Gunpowder Age, Musketeers will be important to us since one victory from them in an attack and we get into a GA. This is where you start to have Muskets for defense of the knight stack, and attack from the shortest possible route. I would push for and encourage governors to build catapults and cannons...Should we get there in the next term. I'd also push for city walls in our border cities, just in case Babylon decides to attack again. The first pikes will be in border cities, like Mure, Acheron, Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.
    5 CT: Cavalry-type units. Second would be artillery, and then Infantry...Currently, Knights will have the defense of a pikeman, and they are faster than catapults...Age of Gunpowder, Musketeers will be important (with one catch. They *WILL* start our Golden Age!).This is where you start to have Muskets for defense of the knight stack, and attack from the shortest possible route. I would incourage governors to build catapults, especially for cannon upgrades, should we get there next term. I'd also push for city walls in our border cities, just in case Babylon decides to attack again. The first pikes will be in border cities, like Mure, Acheron, Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.


    6. CG: Military War infrastructure. Before we can have a successful military, we need a good logistics system that will not depend on economic based upgrades. The next is a mobile and fast army like the Knights in the medieval age.
    6 CT: ...War Infrastructure. Before we can have a successful army, we need one that won't feed off of economic-based upgrades. The next is a mobile army. Knights.


    #'s 4,5 and 6 are almost exact clones, with about half f the sentances bieng exactly the same

    EDIT: my flamethrower is at tyhe ready [plasma]
     

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