Term 6 Foreign Affairs

[DaveShack]

Foreign Affairs Ministry

Minister: DaveShack
Deputy: nobody yet -- unless Nobody wants it :;

Current Projects:

• Determine if the people still want diplo victory
• Find out and post the current diplomatic state
• Gather citizen input on a winning plan

Discussions:

• none yet

Polls:

• none yet

 

[DaveShack]

State of Diplomatic Relations

Last updated (Jan 7, 2005):
Last updated (1630 AD):



France

Polite previously Gracious
They give 7gpt (11) for previous considerations
ROP with Iroquois, ROP with Zulu, At war with Iroquois
Active trades with America, China
Target of embargoes (Russia+Iroquois, Russia+Babylon, Iroquois+Babylon). Trade embargo with Zulu vs Babylon.
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Aztecs

Polite (was gracious)
ROP with America, China. At war with Russia.
Trade with America
Target of embargo Russia+Iroquois, Russia+Babylon
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Russia

Peace, Furious (was at war)
They give 23gpt for peace (14 turns)
ROP with Iroquois, Babylon
MA with Babylon vs France
At war with Aztecs
Active trade with Babylon
Target of embargo between Iroquois and America
Embargo with Iroquois vs China, France, Aztecs
Embargo with Babylon vs Aztecs, France, America
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China

Polite
Peace, ROP (10)
They give 102gpt (11), Spices (2), 56gpt (1)
ROP with America, Aztecs,
Active trades with Babylon, France
Target of embargo between Iroquois and Russia
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America

Polite (was Gracious)
Peace, ROP (9 turns)
ROP with Aztecs, China, Iroquois
Active trades with France, Aztecs, Zulu
Target of embargo between Russia, Babylon
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Babylon

Polite
Peace with us
At war with Zulu
ROP, MPP with Iroquois, ROP with Russia
Embargoes with Iroquois vs France, Russia vs France, Russia vs Aztecs, Russia vs America
Active trades with Russia, China
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Zulu

Furious, at peace
They give us 3gpt for prior considerations (2 turns), 4gpt (11 turns)
They have ROP France, at war with Babylon
They have an active trade with Aztecs, America

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Iroquois

Furious
Peace with us
They have ROP with America, Russia, MPP+ROP with Babylon
They have trade embargo with Babylon vs France, with Russia vs France, with Russia vs China, with Russia vs Aztecs, with America vs Russia
They have no active trades with others
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[Nobody]

Daveshack, congratulations on wining. but the title is a little bland

 

[DaveShack]

Post 2 has been updated with the current state of diplomatic relations and active trades.

Summary:
We can count on France, America, and Aztecs to vote for us unless their relations with China are equally good.

Iroquois and Zulu are definitely a risk to vote for someone else. Iroqouis have an embargo vs China so might abstain instead if their relations are bad enough.

Russia would most likely abstain since they are at war with both China and us.

Babylon is a swing vote. Polite status with us so they would be willing to vote for us, but might abstain if relations equally as good with China.

Probable outcome
Tokugawa 4
Mao 3
Abstain 2

If we eliminated Iroquois and Zulu without worsening relations with anyone else, we would definitely win with 4 votes out of 7. If we get Bablyon at war with China without worsening anyone else, we would probably get 5 votes out of 9. Taking out just one of Iroquois and Zulu does not help, as it would leave 8 votes and still require 5 to win.

 

[Sir Donald III]

We could just elimiate Iroq and Russia and gift Russian Homelands to America and France to solidify their vote.

 

[Provolution]

I would rather gift America and aztecs, maybe Babylon and zulu, France is already nr 3.

 

[DaveShack]

Updated post 2

Russia, Iroquois, Zulu are furious with us and would vote for our opponent unless also furious with them.

Babylon, France, America, Aztecs are polite with us. France, Aztecs, and America all dropped to polite from gracious. We need to bring them back up to cement a vote.

Second in power is China with a clear lead over France. They are our opponents in the election.

We need active trades with France and Babylon to counter China's trades with them, preferably with us giving something per turn.

 

[Chieftess]

Babylon is a swing vote.

So, Babylon is a swing-state... (countries are sometimes called states)
I wonder if there'll be any recounts.

 

[Nobody]

lets just gift all our freinds, particulary babylon, we keep out of the babylon french war

 

[Cyc]

Minister DaveShack, after reading the chat log and reviewing the save last night, I have to say what a good job you did as DP. It is evident that the CoC works. It is also evident that you put the proper amount of time and care into each turn of play. Good job.

 

[Ashburnham]

Minister DaveShack, I was wondering what plans you had to convince Babylon to vote for us in a Diplo victory. I agree that we should increase trade with the Babylonians to counter the Chinese trade deals, but surely there's something else we can do to extend the arm of friendship towards our southern neighbors.