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Term 7 President's Thread

Discussion in 'Team Aloha' started by Kuningas, Jan 29, 2007.

  1. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    Do we revolt to Islam immediately?
     
  2. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    I see no reason to wait- unless we are having a settler/worker being built anytime soon.

    what civics are we in in terms of religion or did we not bother changing yet?
     
  3. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    Finance
    +112 :science: 80%
    +29 :gold: 20%
    -45 :gold: Total expenses
    37 :gold: stored
    Divine Right in 1 turns (1624/1716)

    Workers
    Electrician: SE, E
    Gas Fitter: SE, build a farm, finished in 5
    Builder: build a farm, finished
    Blumber: build a farm, finished in 4
    Carpenter: Build a farm, finished in 5
    Brick Layer: W, build a farm, finished in 7

    Cities
    Aloha (8) worked tiles are pastured pig, coastal tile, 3 lake tiles, 2 mined hills and river grass village.
    Hello (6) worked tiles are pastured cow, 2 farmed grass, grass village, and mined copper hill.
    Hej (7) worked tiles are clams, coastal tile, pastured grass cow, pastured plains cow, 3 mined mountains. <-completed Theater. begin Lighthouse.
    Kia Ora (5) worked tiles are Dyes, Bananas, mined mountain and 2 lake tiles.
    Privet (3) worked tiles are 2 lake tiles and pastured horses.
    Guten Tag (3) worked tiles are 2 flood plains and mined copper mountain.
    Ciao (3) worked tile are 2 Dyes, plains forest .
    Konnichi wa (2) worked tiles are rice and lake tile.

    Spoiler :
    Aloha:
    +3 food 29/36 growth in 3
    +7 hammers 126/150 Market in 2
    30 commerce
    +50 science
    +11 gold
    -2 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    +2 GM :gp: (74/100)

    Hello:
    +3 food 15/32 growth in 6
    +12 hammers 68/70 Maceman in 1
    11 commerce
    +8 science
    +3 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    1 :mad: whip unhappiness (4 turns)

    Hej:
    +0 food 8/34 growth stagnated
    +18 hammers 39/60 Lighthouse in 2
    14 commerce
    +11 science
    +3 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    +2 GE :gp: (10/100)

    Kia Ora:
    +3 food 28/30 growth in 1
    +5 hammers 10/90 Library in 9
    17 commerce
    +13 science
    +4 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    Privet:
    +2 food 18/26 growth in 4
    +6 hammers 28/50 Theater in 2
    8 commerce
    +6 science
    +2 gold
    -4 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    1 :mad: whip unhappiness (7 turns)

    Guten Tag:
    +2 food 15/26 growth in 6
    +7 hammers 23/120 Forge in 14
    5 commerce
    +4 science
    +1 gold
    -4 gold Maintenance

    Ciao:
    +1 food 3/26 growth in 23
    +3 hammers 20/60 Granary in 13
    15 commerce
    +12 science
    +3 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    Konnichi wa:
    +4 food 16/24 growth in 2
    +1 hammers 7/60 Granary in 53
    +7 commerce
    +5 science
    +2 gold
    -3 gold maintence





     
  4. robboo

    robboo Chieftain

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    I am a bit disturbed by the soldiers number...we got to get that up. And I cant believe after all the boost from the gardens that we still are lacking in population.

    I cant tell for sure...but are we near the happiness or health limits
     
  5. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    Happy,

    It is probably down to the fact we have by far the most cities but therefore the smaller ones, i see no reason to worry about any of them things you brought up- we have the highest mfg- meaning we can build a lot of military quick.
     
  6. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    Finance
    +0 :science: 0%
    +0 :gold: 100%
    -0 :gold: Total expenses
    4 :gold: stored
    Paper in turns (0/858)

    Workers
    Electrician: Build a mine, finished in 5
    Gas Fitter: build a farm, finished in 4
    Builder: SE, build a farm, finished in 2
    Blumber: build a farm, finished in 3
    Carpenter: Build a farm, finished in 4
    Brick Layer: build a farm, finished in 6

    Islam founded in Hello. Free missionary goes to Aloha.


    Epsilonians borders.


    Convert to Islam. We can choose civics either Theocracy or Organized Religion. Should we do that in next turn?
     
  7. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    Id say we go with organized religion for the time being, admitedly in the future we're going to need theocracy but for the time being may as well stick with organized religion.
     
  8. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    Looks good. Seems both Piffle and epsilon are a short trip on the galleon.

    Any ideas on how to get a Prophet for our shrine? If we can do that without any problems then i agree with OR, lets get islam to all our cities :)
     
  9. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    To me getting a prophet is not such a big issue- we only get gold from it where it has spread in civs and taking citizens off worked tile to funda GP, now if we can get one through a wonder that is different but imo not a big issue as even if we spread to all our cities we get a maximum of 8gpt a turn.
     
  10. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    Finance
    +0 :science: 0%
    +119 :gold: 100%
    -45 :gold: Total expenses
    4 :gold: stored
    Nationalism 2574 in turns (0/2574)

    Workers
    Electrician: Build a mine, finished in 4
    Gas Fitter: build a farm, finished in 3
    Builder: SE, build a farm, finished
    Blumber: build a farm, finished in 2
    Carpenter: Build a farm, finished in 3
    Brick Layer: build a farm, finished in 5

    Cities
    Aloha (8) worked tiles are pastured pig, rice, 3 lake tiles, 2 mined hills and river grass village.
    Hello (6) worked tiles are pastured cow, 2 farmed grass, grass village, and mined copper hill.
    Hej (7) worked tiles are clams, coastal tile, pastured grass cow, pastured plains cow, 3 mined mountains. <-completed Theater. begin Lighthouse.
    Kia Ora (6) worked tiles are Dyes, Bananas, mined mountain and 2 lake tiles, farmed grass.
    Privet (3) worked tiles are lake tile, plains forest and pastured horses.
    Guten Tag (3) worked tiles are 2 flood plains and mined copper mountain.
    Ciao (3) worked tile are 2 Dyes, farmed plains .
    Konnichi wa (2) worked tiles are rice and lake tile.

    Spoiler :
    Aloha:
    +5 food 32/36 growth in 1
    +7 hammers 138/150 Market in 1
    30 commerce
    +0 science
    +45 gold
    -2 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    +2 GM :gp: (76/100)

    Hello:
    +3 food 18/32 growth in 5
    +12 hammers 0/50 Longbowmen in 3
    9 commerce
    +0 science
    +9 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    1 :mad: whip unhappiness (3 turns)

    Hej:
    +0 food 8/34 growth stagnated
    +18 hammers 58/60 Lighthouse in 1
    14 commerce
    +0 science
    +14 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    +2 GE :gp: (12/100)

    Kia Ora:
    +4 food 16/32 growth in 4
    +5 hammers 16/90 Library in 8
    17 commerce
    +0 science
    +17 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    Privet:
    +2 food 20/26 growth in 3
    +6 hammers 40/50 Theater in 1
    8 commerce
    +0 science
    +8 gold
    -4 gold Maintenance

    notes:
    1 :mad: whip unhappiness (6 turns)

    Guten Tag:
    +2 food 17/26 growth in 5
    +7 hammers 30/120 Forge in 13
    5 commerce
    +0 science
    +5 gold
    -4 gold Maintenance

    Ciao:
    +2 food 4/26 growth in 11
    +2 hammers 26/60 Granary in 17
    15 commerce
    +0 science
    +15 gold
    -3 gold Maintenance

    Konnichi wa:
    +4 food 20/24 growth in 1
    +1 hammers 8/60 Granary in 52
    +7 commerce
    +0 science
    +7 gold
    -3 gold maintence



    Caravel unit. Epsilon must be several techs ahead in tech tree.


     
  11. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    We only need to research optics to have Caravels too. It would be interesting to see if they cross into our borders. It was also good to see islam spread to Privet for free:)

    It looks like from the map we are in an olympic rings formation for lack of a better way of describing it. Aloha, Epsilon and Innovia in the north and Loco and Piffle in the south inbetween the northern nations.

    A possible trade we could do is this. Theology for Paper from Piffle, then get Philo from Innovia. We can give the Thelogy and Paper for it and get them to research Horseback Riding to even up the beakers to return to us. All the while we can work our way towards Nationalism. We seem to be ahead of everyone in the top part of the tech tree.
     
  12. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    I'm collecting gold so we can run deficit research after 6-7 turns. Somehow at that time when we resume research funding, we must have gained Philosophy from one team. If we have gained Philosophy by then, Nationalism would be 514 beakers cheaper! We get +40&#37; beakers for knowing two prerequisite techs. Nationalism real cost would be 1544 beakers.
     
  13. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    Proposed deal for paper for theology with whomp and cane, talking to dutchfire now via msn
     
  14. Kuningas

    Kuningas Chieftain

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    you mean Music...
     
  15. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    No, robi said why not trade theology for paper, thats the one i proposed., they cracked on about wanting fued i told them we couldnt trade that, everyone went away not too happy :)

    in terms of innovia, they ignored what i said about theology and focused on paper instead- which was a null point as piffle didnt look ready to trade.
     
  16. Vind2

    Vind2 Woof?

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    EEN :eek: we got alot of attention.
     
  17. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    Kuningas is right, i got tongue tied;)

    The trade to Piffle is Paper for Music (858 beakers each)

    then we trade Innovia Theology and Paper for Philio and HBR which is 72 beakers in their favour (1573 vs 1501) but still works out well for us. Also once we have paper we can trade maps with Innovia

    Once we have Philo we can start on Nationalism and get there quicker as kuningas pointed out.
     
  18. BCLG100

    BCLG100 Music Master

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    Well regardless, piffle seemed unwilling to trade paper away and innovia seemed unwilling to accept anything other than paper and wanted us to research HBR to make up the difference....
     
  19. Robi D

    Robi D Minister of (Dis)Order

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    If thats the case we could go over piffle and try to get a deal from Epsilon for paper, or we research both paper and HBR ourselves. Either way we can research HBR now and see if we can get a deal of Epsilon in the meantime
     
  20. robboo

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    no reasons why they would not part with paper...

    (other than they got it from Epsilon and cant trade it???) I will ask sweet again to see whats up with that.

    Vind...dont worry too much about the EEN comentary. By them publishing it they keep themselves in everyones mind. ALSO isnt it time for another pineapple. I have an idea on how we can throw some distrust around....
     

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