practically securing the UN. It will be interesting to see how the vote works out, you may be right that it won't be enough yet. I'm a bit puzzled though about the populations. According to demographics Just has 25.9 million pop to our mere 11.8 million, but in percentages according to the victory screen it's only 24.0% vs us 18.9%. I hope it's these percentages that count with the vote, not the absolute pop count... For the UN we need 478 from 772 votes which is nearly 62%. Joao is probably number 2 in pop, let's suppose he's on some 20%. Then Hammu, Qin and Asoka together should have 23% to make us win. Probably won't make it I guess, because Gengis and Monty conversely will have more than 14% and won't vote for us (thus with more than 38% not voting for us). So we'll have to grow. I'd say let's fire all specialists and probably farm all those cottages near Nidaros and Ribe. Hate to destroy all of them, but well, the only thing needed is pop, pop and more pop and research can be stalled, basically. Unless we now want to have a feeble attempt at space. And we may want to take out those barb cities and see if we can settle a bit more, like 3N of Ribe east of Kaupang and there are some unsettled tiny islands with fish to Portugal's east. I'm not sure about trading biology, I think it's too likely Just will then get it trade. Once he does get it however, we might as well gift it to our friends Qin and Asoka. EDIT: Crossposted with Sengir... I like the war plan with Gengis or Monty, that must be the way to go. Probably with Monty as Asoka is of course a big friend of Gengis. If that won't suffice, we can always go after Gengis still.