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Thailand overrules AIDS and heart disease medicine patents

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Erik Mesoy, Jan 29, 2007.

  1. Erik Mesoy

    Erik Mesoy Core Tester / Intern

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    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/29/asia/AS-MED-Thailand-Drug-Patents.php

    My thoughts are that since this is specified under the WTO agreement, the companies can't really complain, since they chose to sell the drugs at such a high price that it resulted in a "national health emergency", when they apparently could have sold it at one-tenth the price.
     
  2. Pasi Nurminen

    Pasi Nurminen Deity

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    To put costs in perspective for the rest of the forum, minimum wage in urban areas in Thailand is 139 baht (~$2.50) per day.
     
  3. Tycoon101

    Tycoon101 Loves being STRONG

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    The government should never feel the need to break patents in order to save lives. If they are so adamant on saving lives, they should just research their own cures.
     
  4. Erik Mesoy

    Erik Mesoy Core Tester / Intern

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    Thanks for that, Pasi.

    A problem with this is that if they independently research a cure and it's "similar" to the patented one, they'd still have to break the patent to use the independently researched cure.

    Not to mention the possible death toll while the research goes on.
     
  5. Masquerouge

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    Hey, these people just shouldn't get sick in the first place!
     
  6. Tycoon101

    Tycoon101 Loves being STRONG

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    I still believe that governments have no right in interfering with business.

    Absolutely correct.
     
  7. Masquerouge

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    What's good and works for the richest, most developed country on Earth might not be applicable to a small, borderline-Third-World Asian country.


    Absolutely sarcastic would have been correct :)
     
  8. Pasi Nurminen

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    What it boils down to is Tycoon not giving a hoot about his fellow man.
     
  9. skadistic

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    Wow when you read the thread title wrong and then reread it cause your baffled you can see what a letter or two can do.

    I read "Thailand overrules AIDS and heart disease medicine patients ".



    I'm no friend to the pharma-corps. If cheaper doesn't kill more then it saves, fine by me.
     
  10. Erik Mesoy

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    Tycoon, can you please quantify why you think that the possible death of 400 000 customers is less "interfering" with business than the possible loss of 752 000 dollars, seeing as 400 000 people are likely to earn and spend far more than 752 000 dollars during even one year?

    :rotfl:
     
  11. EdwardTking

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    IPR including patents obstruct the operation of the free market.

    Therefore governments should stop interfering in business
    by abolishing IPR including patent law.
     
  12. bhsup

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    COuld they have sold it at 1/10th the price already, or are they still trying to recoup R&D costs for the drug?
     
  13. Pontiuth Pilate

    Pontiuth Pilate Republican Jesus!

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    The government of Thailand has a greater responsibility to Thai citizens than to American corporations.

    For that matter, the government of the USA has a greater responsibility to American citizens than to American corporations. It doesn't act like that's the case, but it's still true.
     
  14. GinandTonic

    GinandTonic Saphire w/ Schweps + Lime

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    Possibly the most contemptable statement on CFC so far this year.

    Could put that in my sig.
     
  15. Stegyre

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    Congratulations, patent holders! You have come up with something so good, we will pay you less for it.

    I can understand the (Thai) government's reasoning. The basic counter-argument is that this will discourage investment in research for new/better cures. (While this is, for now, only for Thailand, the generics will almost certainly cross borders and possibly lower the drug price worldwide.) This appears inevitable. Time will tell whether it is a practice that proves to be "penny-wise; pound-foolish." I certainly hope it does not. Most likely, it will only depress profits, not eliminate them. The pharma companies will still make money, just not as much.
     
  16. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    Good for Thailand!

    Kaletra is made by Abbott, the same company who increased the price of it's last anti-HIV medication, Norvor 5 fold AFTER they had recooped the RD costs.
     
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    Good thing. At least now medicine are actually affordable.
     
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    I'm not really sure what I think about patent laws. On the one hand, there wouldn't really be a huge incentive to invent without them. On the other, they seem somewhat antithetical to capitalism.
     
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    At least someone has a clue how to run a country.
     

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