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The 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia Thread

Discussion in 'Sports Talk' started by BirraImperial, Jun 6, 2018.

  1. Ferocitus

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    Pffft! It was pretty obvious for most of us watching that it was a handball. It
    would not have been given a penalty without the VAR.
     
  2. Kyriakos

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    I would hate it if Croatia won a world cup. I mean many people were annoyed that Greece won the Euro cup, but a WC is global so it is far worse for a random/random-ish team to win it imo.
     
  3. Akka

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    EFF YEAH !
     
  4. Rakkoon

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    Croatia played beautifully, had tenacity, were willing to play and not just block all football. But it was not meant to be.

    At least we only lost to the champion.
    How they got to be champion will be forgotten after a while.
     
  5. Kyriakos

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    That said, France isn't actually one of the major traditional football powers either (Germany-Argentina-Brazil-Italy). It won its first ever WC 20 years ago, in the rather bizarre 1998 WC at France (with many accusations of bribing refs etc).
    Still, now it has 2 WC titles.

    Still, Holland never won a WC (it did win the Euro).
     
  6. Pangur Bán

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    Croatia never get that penalty, never in a million years. No referee would risk his career for that.

    Issue with the penalty is that it was not an obvious error and so VAR intervention shouldn't have happened. The ball came too quickly for the intentionality required to be 'obvious', but even if it didn't, Croatia would never have gotten that at their end.
     
  7. Pangur Bán

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    Well done France, best team in the tournament and worthy winners.
     
  8. Ferocitus

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    Hahaha. Croatia played well and are as tough as old boots. Made it a great game.
    They should swap jumpers now so the French have a nice cloth for a pique-nique.
     
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    Sorry but the only win that counts is the number of goals. :p
     
  10. Ferocitus

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    It wasn't intentional. You could see him drop his hands in an attempt to avoid
    handball. But intent is not whether there is a penalty or not, only if there is
    a possible red card as well.
     
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    Thoroughly deserved win for France despite a spirited attempt by Croatia. It was a very entertaining final what with the pitch invasions, a couple of great goals and a comical blunder.

    All in all a very good World Cup!
     
  12. Ferocitus

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    I remember the way they cut down Cryuff mercilessly and repeatedly.
    I'm surprised he could walk after some of the WC games he played in.
     
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    Croatia lost the match in the first 45 minutes.
    France experienced enough to win
    How long ago that we had so many goals in a final ?

    Mbappe a great player :)
    Could become a real icon

    And a great tournament !
     
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    What? I think you may have to do some reading about the rules here!
     
  15. Kyriakos

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    An even more crude case is the german defenders who were just in the game to cause critical injury to Ferenc Puskás :vomit:
     
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    About the handball: what Akka said. Voluntary or not, you can't deny it being handball. Also, I can't see the point of the (not yours) argument that Croatia would not have had that penalty:
    1) point is moot, as the game gave Croatia no such episode;
    2) if Korea can get the VAR on her side against Germany, then why couldn't Croatia?

    Griezmann: I was thinking him making a 'losers' sign in the direction of Croatia's supporters after ther 2-1. It was blink-and-miss, I believe he also did it once again in the second half.
     
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    France is 4th or 5th in number of semifinals, so it's not like Belgium or Portugal. And could have won in 82 if the refs hadn't stole the semifinal.
     
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    You must be reading a different post or failing to comprehend.
    I never said it wasn't a penalty. It did deserve a penalty.
    I said he did try to drop his hand to avoid handball, so it wasn't deliberate.
    I also think without VAR that the ref would have given the benefit of the doubt
    and not awarded a penalty.
     
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    Of course France isn't like Belgium. I just said it isn't in the first tier traditional WC powers :)
    It is still above England, though. (and Portugal).
     

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