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The Agressive 5.

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by Eddogegr3, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. Eddogegr3

    Eddogegr3 Warlord

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    The 5 Leaders you do not want to see as your neighbor.

    1. Genghis Khan - The very essence of "Ornery"
    2. Shaka - This is one testy dude
    3. Napoleon - Stop planting cities between mine, geez.
    4. Monty - Can you say, a Pest? not very smart. But a pest.
    5. Izzy - Take your religion and shove it....
     
  2. PibbZ

    PibbZ Paladin

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    Alexander
    Hannibal
    Montezuma
    Biscmark
    Tokugawa or whatever (Japan)
     
  3. RedRalph

    RedRalph Deity

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    am I the only one who dosent think alex is that bad? only once has he ever dclared war one me
     
  4. Eddogegr3

    Eddogegr3 Warlord

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    I never had a problem with him...
     
  5. Wade.

    Wade. Chieftain

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    I might try ,more often, playing with the option on that randomizes the AI personalites. It's odd that way if you are used to the varoius personalities. Example: Gandhi's appearence with Montezuma's personality, Montezuma's appearence with Roosevelts personality, etcetera.

    What do you think?
     
  6. eXcel

    eXcel Chieftain

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    play w/ random personalities on for more interesting/unpredictable game play.
     
  7. Virulent

    Virulent King

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    I played a game where I started it out on a small continent with just me and Alex. He had copper near his capital. He attacked me quite a few times. I was eventually able to wear him down but when I came across the rest of the civs I was so behind in tech it wasn't worth playing any further.

    Charlemagne is also another nasty neighbor.
     
  8. tomaalimosh

    tomaalimosh Warlord

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    I had more bad experiences with Alexander than I can count. Especially because I never learn, and let his friendly approach get to me. I mean... this guy attacks even if he is +15 at reaction, and I have a stronger army... very unpredictable.
    I mean, with Monty, Shaka and Genghis Khan you see it comming... not to mention Tokugawa, who most of the times manages to provoke me to attack him by just being annoying.

    I had similar trouble (like with Alex, but slightly in a lower league), with "Charlie's Angels" (Isabela, Catherine and Hathepshut)... So... my top 5 would be
    1 Alexander
    2-4 Isabela, Catherine and Hathepshut
    5-7 Monty, Shaka and Genghis Khan

    Bouadica ... I don't know.... had her as a neighbour only once, and it was obvious she would attack (I was a buddhist, she was a hindu, and ye started close)... so... I don't know yet where (and if) she fits in the list
     
  9. Putchuco

    Putchuco Addictionado

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    1. Shaka - Any noise startles him, best to prepare to take him out first
    2. Boudica - Ridiculous attacks no matter how much stronger you are
    3. Genghis Khan - Attacks you at any moment in time, but well planned;
    often reminds me of a human player, nothing crazy, just dangerous
    4. Monty - Total nutcase, if he gets out of bed the wrong way, he'll send his little Jaguars, or whatever they're called. Not a real challenge.
    5. Almost everybody else, except maybe for Gandhi
     
  10. FAk47

    FAk47 Chieftain

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    1 - Genghis Khan - Crazy guy, when you lesse expect.. we atack you
    2 - Shaka - This is another one.. he just love war..
    3 - Montezuma - This could be pleased and we atacks anyway
    4 - Alexander - i dont like this one..
    5 - Kublai Khan - another krazy war guy!!
     
  11. russinmn

    russinmn Chieftain

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    how do you get someone to start a war with you? is there a way to provoke someone to attack you? like maybe leaving a small city unprotected near him or in his midst?
     
  12. Angst

    Angst Rambling and inconsistent

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    Gandhi has been the player who declared war on me most times... >.<
     
  13. 18lama

    18lama Warlord

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    In no particular order:

    Budicca
    Monty
    Shaka
    Genghis
    JoaoII (even though he's not AGG, he likes to decalre war on me many times)
     
  14. Merkinball

    Merkinball Deity

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    Ragnar
    Monty
    Shaka
    Ghengis
    Catherine
     
  15. Cvntpumeler

    Cvntpumeler Warlord

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    He's never been a problem fo me either, but I rarely see him. I haven't seen Alex since Warlords,always Pericles. I see Shaka Zulu in every game though.
     
  16. Angst

    Angst Rambling and inconsistent

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    Hehe, Cvnpumeler, I'm back, taste my Impi :evil:
     
  17. 0R4NG3

    0R4NG3 Prince

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    1. Shaka
    2. Monty
    3. Toku
    4. Izzy (only if different religion, otherwise Boudicea)
    5. Alex or Ragnar
     
  18. eewallace

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    While not the toughest, these are the most annoying:

    Isabella the insane--can't stand the thought of any religion but her own...

    Ragnar -- I swear this guy will stay at war for literally hundreds of years and never suffers war weariness even though I've go the statute of zeus!
     
  19. Antilogic

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    It's odd people above have those experiences with Alexander...the crazy guy who attacks me at +15 with an inferior force is almost always Montezuma. Alexander tends to act more like a schoolyard bully, finding the one guy with a small army and is isolated, and then whipping him every so often.

    I love seeing Tokugawa next door. Since he doesn't trade with anyone and stays isolated, he typically falls behind quick. Whenever I see Japan, I see another few cities for my growing empire.

    My Top 5 Crazy Neighbors:
    • Shaka: He's in almost every game I play, and he fights everyone. It's like he's foaming at the mouth or something.
    • Montezuma: Crazy mofo. Grins and cackles evilly and has a shrunken skull on his head. 'Nuff said.
    • Isabella: Religious wars, anyone? She rarely spreads her religion to me, although once she did and we signed a PA. Every other time, though, she fights me.
    • Catherine: She typically backstabs you when you don't help her or give into her demands. I rarely give into AI demands. You can see where this usually leads.
    • Boudica: She just has such awesome warmonger traits combined with the aggressiveness. It's a pain to be next door.
     
  20. MrTomothy

    MrTomothy resident punker

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    I can't stand Catherine because of the city spamming that she does. I'm almost forced to either REX or make an early war, so I'm not drowning in them. I would guess that other imperialistic leaders do this, also.
     

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