The argentinian team rescue

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Here's the story:

Failed mountain rescue, video of struggling climber prompt investigation in Argentina

By JEANNETTE NEUMANN Associated Press Writer

8:06 PM CST, February 18, 2009
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Prosecutors are investigating a failed attempt to rescue an Argentine climbing guide from a blinding snowstorm on the highest peak in the Americas after a video of the rescue expedition aired on national television in Argentina.

The nearly three-minute video shows 31-year-old Federico Campanini struggling on his hands and knees as he was tugged forward on a rope by five rescuers, while another filmed.

For much of the video rescuers appear to be standing idle next to a collapsed Campanini, doing little more than comment that he was close to death. Aired repeatedly on television, the footage raised a public outcry that rescuers could have done more on Aconcagua mountain, where more than 4,600 climbers attempted to summit last year.

But police say rescuers never left Campanini's side, and a coordinator of the effort said the team itself was near exhaustion in sub-zero, oxygen-depleted air after racing up the mountain. The video shows crew members stumbling, and picks up the sound of the cameraman's frantic breathing as the crew barely inches forward.

The two policemen and four volunteers on the rescue team were not speaking to the news media on Wednesday.

The guide's parents, Carlos and Monica Campanini, cited the video as proof that the six-member rescue crew allowed their son to die without doing enough.

Carlos Campanini said the video, which was anonymously delivered to his lawyer a week ago, was excruciating to watch and he doesn't want another climber to be treated the same way.

"The people who were around him, let him down," Campanini told The Associated Press. "My son did everything he could to save himself. You could see his desperation to save his life because he had his plans, his ideals, his family and his wife."

Campanini also questioned why the rescue team did not carry oxygen or a lightweight stretcher to save his son, but local mountain guides said any extra weight would have slowed down the effort.

Antonio Ibaceta, who coordinated the operations from base camp for the Mendoza police force, said people viewing the video at home cannot fathom the conditions on the highest peak outside of Asia.

"The public has no right to condemn (the crew) in this way, when what they did was truly an act of solidarity" since the men volunteered for the rescue mission, Ibaceta said. And the two-minute, 50-second video must be understood in the context of a 30-hour rescue effort, he said.

While most experienced climbers take three to four days to scale the 22,841-foot (6,962-meter) Aconcagua, the rescue crew surged to the top in one day, into thin air and minus 58-degree (minus 50 Celsius) temperatures, Ibaceta said.

He said crews often film rescue efforts to improve subsequent operations and to use as legal evidence in the event of a death.

The prosecutor's office for Mendoza province confirmed it was investigating the rescue attempt and received a copy of the video, but declined to discuss further details.

Environmental Secretary Guillermo Carmona, who oversees Aconcagua park and its employees, emphasized the difficulty of the rescue.

"What can be seen in the video is that the rescue squad is trying to do its best amid the existing conditions to evacuate Federico Campanini," Carmona said.

Campanini already was in dire condition when rescuers arrived.

On Jan. 7, he and the four Italian climbers were caught in an afternoon snow storm and strayed from their route. An avalanche then killed an Italian woman and injured Campanini before help arrived to lead the hypothermic survivors down the mountain.

Carmona said the rescue team was in close contact by radio with a public prosecutor whose statements also will be part of the investigation.

Julio Suarez, police spokesman in Mendoza province, expressed concern that the investigation could discourage volunteers from joining future rescue efforts.

"They're going to say 'No, because someone can take me to court,'" Suarez said.

And here's the link:
http://www.whotv.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-lt-argentina-climbing-death,0,7078377.story

Bonus track: the last moments of Federico Campanini (in Spanish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTMXtdNEK0I

This is the worst rescue team by far.
 
Ok.

First of all, I'm not really keen to watch a snuff movie.

Second, when you do mountain-climbing, you acknowledge there is a non-negligible chance that you will die. Period.

Trying to say it's the fault of the rescuers is insane. We're talking high-altitude, snow-storm rescue here, not pulling a Heimlich on the dude next to you who is choking on his bretzel.

Antonio Ibaceta, who coordinated the operations from base camp for the Mendoza police force, said people viewing the video at home cannot fathom the conditions on the highest peak outside of Asia.

"The public has no right to condemn (the crew) in this way, when what they did was truly an act of solidarity" since the men volunteered for the rescue mission, Ibaceta said. And the two-minute, 50-second video must be understood in the context of a 30-hour rescue effort, he said.

Yup yup.

While most experienced climbers take three to four days to scale the 22,841-foot (6,962-meter) Aconcagua, the rescue crew surged to the top in one day, into thin air and minus 58-degree (minus 50 Celsius) temperatures, Ibaceta said.

Care to explain to me why they would let him die out of negligence after doing that kind of effort to reach him?
 
Ok.

First of all, I'm not really keen to watch a snuff movie.

It's not snuff because the moment of his death wasn't filmed, it was only filmed the rescue attempt.

Second, when you do mountain-climbing, you acknowledge there is a non-negligible chance that you will die. Period.

Trying to say it's the fault of the rescuers is insane. We're talking high-altitude, snow-storm rescue here, not pulling a Heimlich on the dude next to you who is choking on his bretzel.

Is not that "insane" if you would have seen the video that shows the "techniques" used in the rescue attempt. Take a look at this:

Spoiler :


Here you can clearly see that he was treated like a dog an, after that, abandoned by the crew that, supposingly, was rescuing him.

Care to explain to me why they would let him die out of negligence after doing that kind of effort to reach him?

I don't know. You should ask that to the members of the crew who, supposignly, was "trying" to rescue him.
 
They didn't have sled-gurney (or whatever they're called) to pull him on. It looks like they were already trying to drag him and that it was proving to be exhausting. I'm not sure what more they could have done for him.

Though watching the video I can't say it's very helpful to stand around a man struggling for survival and keep stating to one another that he is going to die. What do you think that does to the victim when they hear that from their rescuers? It's a very hard video to watch.:(

Maybe there is a need for improvement (especially better equipment) and training but I wouldn't go as far to say they were responsible for his death or that they didn't try their best to save him.
 
It's not snuff because the moment of his death wasn't filmed, it was only filmed the rescue attempt.

Oh great. I'm so glad.


Is not that "insane" if you would have seen the video that shows the "techniques" used in the rescue attempt. Take a look at this:

Spoiler :

As was said earlier, I won't judge a 30-hour rescue effort by a 150-second video.




Here you can clearly see that he was treated like a dog an, after that, abandoned by the crew that, supposingly, was rescuing him.

I don't think they're treating him as a dog, they're trying to pull him anyway they can.

I don't know. You should ask that to the members of the crew who, supposignly, was "trying" to rescue him.

As I said, this is mountain-climbing, furthermore one of the highest mountains in the world. You can't expect the rescuers will come right the minute something goes wrong, and pull off an amazing, superhuman rescue.

It seems to me that people outraged by this know nothing about high-altitude rescues and expect it should be a piece of cake.

Furthermore, since you don't know, you'll rather believe the outraged parents and the sensationalist press than the professionals?
 
As was said earlier, I won't judge a 30-hour rescue effort by a 150-second video.

Neither would I if that video didn't show how the rescuers were dragging someone who is exhausted and dying like a dog.

I don't think they're treating him as a dog, they're trying to pull him anyway they can.

If dragging a exhausted and dying person in the summit of the hightest mountain in America instead of using a sledge just to abandon him and let him die just because he's too exhausted to keep your walk is not treating someone like a dog, then you tell me what's treating someone like a dog.

As I said, this is mountain-climbing, furthermore one of the highest mountains in the world. You can't expect the rescuers will come right the minute something goes wrong, and pull off an amazing, superhuman rescue.

It seems to me that people outraged by this know nothing about high-altitude rescues and expect it should be a piece of cake.

Of course trying to rescue someone in the Aconcagua must be a pain in the ass, but you tell me, does this justify the fact that they didn't wear oxygen? Why did those "rescuers" didn't even have a stretcher or a sledge?
Did you know that in the 30 minutes video there's a part in which Federico Campanini asks his rescuers for this total lack of materials, and they don't know what to answer?
Did you know that this rescue team is not made by professionals? How come one of the most climbed mountains in the planet does not even have a rescue team for the thousands of climbers that try to climb it?

Furthermore, since you don't know, you'll rather believe the outraged parents and the sensationalist press than the professionals?

The crew had 6 members. 4 of them were volunteers, the other 2 were policemen with little or no expierience in high-altitude rescues. And yes, I belive the media that interview actual professionals who say that everything which was done in that rescue attempt was wrong.
 
None of them were apparently trained in appropriate emergency medical procedures. Oh well. At least they were willing to risk their own lives to try to help, which likely will not be the case next time if criminal or civil charges are brought against anybody involved.

With the pervasiveness of more and more cheap video gear, expect to see many more deaths like this one.
 
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