The Bible and Us!?
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Psalms says that the earth is 'not to be moved forever' - there is absolutely nothing there about orbits. According to Psalms the earth is immovably fixed. If you can find me a quote about orbits, or the earth going round the sun, then that's fine. But I can't see it anywhere.
Psalms seems quite definite that the earth doesn't move, no way, no how.
Psalms seems quite definite that the earth doesn't move, no way, no how.
Yes, it doesn't say anything about orbits. However the BBL was written in a way so as to leave room for interperation. That way it would require faith to know the truth, other wise God would be speaking at us from the heavens saying "I do exist you morons" 
That is why faith is faith. If we all KNEW God existed we wouldn't need faith.
That is why faith is faith. If we all KNEW God existed we wouldn't need faith.
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Easy excuse brad.Then we can also make inter perations of other parts...
Like from the snake and the apple you can then alseo say there where in the anient times talking snakes
Like from the snake and the apple you can then alseo say there where in the anient times talking snakes
Whatever buddy... It's quite obviouse that we are all firmly embedded in our "faith" in whatever we believe. Neither of us will budge. That's fine to each his own. I have no qualms about you not believing what I believe.
BTW: No hard feelings
BTW: No hard feelings
Hey, before anything else cont me in on the peacemakers club 
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All right, here I go:
Oh, if it were above the SPHERE of the earth very different shapes, you know. But I guess its just semantics, am I right?
This sentence looks conveniently edited. Clearly, it says that SOMEONE is hanging the earth upon nothing, but the ellipses will not allow me to see who. I assume that it is God.
Technically, earth is not hanging, as well as technically, its not upon nothing, its held by the very real suns gravity. But I wont make a point about it, because it would be incoherent with my line of thinking that its foolish to interpret the bible literally.
I wont say that its reasonable interpretation until I see the entire sentence (or the context that allow us to know who it is referring to and why), but it could end up in a defendable line of thinking though hardly enough to make you assume that they had even brute knowledge of universal gravitation.
Oh, but we ARE evolving. Evolution has not reached a climax yet. In fact its unlikely that evolution will ever have a climax.
See, evolution is about adaptation. Generally, it means improvement, because when various adaptations shows up, the better ones survive, the others are extinguished. Its a very slow process, but its noticeable at the long run. Not that those adaptations are intrinsically better, they can be just convenient.
Hypothetical example: Somehow, the sun stops shining (and miraculously life in earth does not change, except the fact that we cannot see anything due to the lack of light). Like happens to blind people today, we would develop other senses and rely less and less in vision.
As time passes, that information will be printed in genes. Other senses will get stronger and stronger, and the eyes would start to disappear. This process happened in the real world, with fish that lives in deep waters, too deep for light to reach. They have no eyes or residual and inoperative eyes, or they have biological light. Adaptations.
Not that such new human senses would be naturally better than vision but they would be more fit to the environment, and therefore, topically better. It's all about biological convenience.
When it goes to humans, why do you thing that the darker skin tones majorities are in the hotter countries? Its because the pigmentation helps to protect against sunlight. Simple as that. It disappeared in the colder countries because less protection is necessary.
Evolution system is bound to reality. Comparing it to the x-man is to be joking, because comics rely on exaggerations. In their world, there are lots of aliens, ships that travel to outer space in minutes, immortal humans and divine beings with physical shapes and constant appearances all the time.
Oh, anyway, I realize you were just kidding, its just that I like being emphatic.
Regards.
.All right, here I go:
Oh, if it were above the SPHERE of the earth very different shapes, you know. But I guess its just semantics, am I right?
This sentence looks conveniently edited. Clearly, it says that SOMEONE is hanging the earth upon nothing, but the ellipses will not allow me to see who. I assume that it is God.
Technically, earth is not hanging, as well as technically, its not upon nothing, its held by the very real suns gravity. But I wont make a point about it, because it would be incoherent with my line of thinking that its foolish to interpret the bible literally.
I wont say that its reasonable interpretation until I see the entire sentence (or the context that allow us to know who it is referring to and why), but it could end up in a defendable line of thinking though hardly enough to make you assume that they had even brute knowledge of universal gravitation.
Oh, but we ARE evolving. Evolution has not reached a climax yet. In fact its unlikely that evolution will ever have a climax.
See, evolution is about adaptation. Generally, it means improvement, because when various adaptations shows up, the better ones survive, the others are extinguished. Its a very slow process, but its noticeable at the long run. Not that those adaptations are intrinsically better, they can be just convenient.
Hypothetical example: Somehow, the sun stops shining (and miraculously life in earth does not change, except the fact that we cannot see anything due to the lack of light). Like happens to blind people today, we would develop other senses and rely less and less in vision.
As time passes, that information will be printed in genes. Other senses will get stronger and stronger, and the eyes would start to disappear. This process happened in the real world, with fish that lives in deep waters, too deep for light to reach. They have no eyes or residual and inoperative eyes, or they have biological light. Adaptations.
Not that such new human senses would be naturally better than vision but they would be more fit to the environment, and therefore, topically better. It's all about biological convenience.
When it goes to humans, why do you thing that the darker skin tones majorities are in the hotter countries? Its because the pigmentation helps to protect against sunlight. Simple as that. It disappeared in the colder countries because less protection is necessary.
Evolution system is bound to reality. Comparing it to the x-man is to be joking, because comics rely on exaggerations. In their world, there are lots of aliens, ships that travel to outer space in minutes, immortal humans and divine beings with physical shapes and constant appearances all the time.
Oh, anyway, I realize you were just kidding, its just that I like being emphatic.
Regards
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And he couldn't of formed man by evolution?
Well ,I don't believe in Adam an dEve so I won't argue.
My comment was in answer to your thing about evolution being an insult to the power of God. If evolution is the way then that does not mean that God loves man any less or that God just sat back to watch what happens.
All Christians take the bible seriously, but not all take it lirerally. I think I said this already (I'm not going back to check) but I'll say it again:
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And on the earth being suspended in one place, or whatever, see relativity.
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