OK, let's start with the background of my civ gaming. I started with civ1 years ago, and liked it ALOT! Sure, it was not as advanced as civ3, but for it's time, it was really well done.
civ2 was a happy surprise. It worked on my PC (I only saw civ one for the commodore 64) and it had groovy movies. It felt like a thrill to play! I have always played on the real maps, mostly playing some mediterranian culture, mostly Romans. I played civ2 until I mastered it completely, scoring well over 400% on emperor level. It just kept being fun!
The realism was OK, well, we all know it's a game, but I was never bothered by anything like "Oh, man, that is just worthless!"
Then I bought civ 3...
I understand it is a different game, and I understand it will take some time to learn it. I have now played for several months, and my conclusion is....I hate it!
Every game is just the same! I get the bloody resources, I stay behind the computor in the early days (I have 0 tax, total research, as big as anyone else, library in all cities, and I still fall behind.
Well, no problem! I start to trade! Presto, I am the richest civ in thed game and get all the techs. The someone goes to war with me, usually some stupid people that I never even heard of, as like the Aztecs stuck in Australia when I am holding France...
Some other, closer civ joins in, and we slug it out a bit! I always win, since I charge their capitol. With the new stacking system, it's real easy to make an army that just can't get defeated. Even a large army of hopelassy outdated forces will win. The old militia against the army of Norman Schwartzkopf. Hey, they march on, dying in their thousand, but still take the capitol. Make peace, offer the capitol for a few other cities, do it all again a few times, and one civ less to worry about. Now I am quite big. I am getting ahead in tech! Noone bothers me, the other civs just start making war on the weakling, all joining up on some wird crusade, kill off one player, then go for the next one. I sometimes join in, getting a few extra town, or just walk behiund their advancing troops, using settlers to found new cities. The culture flipping is great! Armies numbering millions of men, in huge cities, revert to me! I win by either killing EVERYTHING with tanks, or by a diplomatic victory, while 10000000000000 stealthplanes can't sink the triremes of Pompey, the Siox raiders charge modern USA and fight the Abrahms tanks to a standstill. Didn't you know that a guy on a horse with a bow and arrow CAN blow up a platoon of tanks, if the tanks are hurt and the rider aims carefully! My cities are usually fantastic, since all the great projects of ancient time that litter the streets. I will always remember the Barracks of Rome, that took 1500 years to build. Well, actually, I was building the Pyramids, but since a migrating bird told me that they had been build in the Andes, I had to change to project and build the MOST IMPRESSIVE BARRACKS EVER instead. Other great buildings are the Wall of babylon, at first designed to be a Library, but 800 years lated my architect took acid or someting and made all the books in papier maché and formed a wall. Lucky that was too, since later on, the Zulu nation, once wronged, 5000 years ago, decided to avenge and attacked.
However, the greatest threat has always been the allied workes...French workers, protected by a Right of Passage, entered my realm, and started planting large aereas of woodland in my field?! I returned the quin by irrigating their mines. I wonder why nations declare war on eachother, when you just can send a workforce to rebuild another country. I wonder what Bush would say to the EC ministers planting bamboo in the Oval office.
I've played a lot of games, and most pc games have a better grasp of reality and coherance then civ. Sorry, but civ3 sucks!
civ2 was a happy surprise. It worked on my PC (I only saw civ one for the commodore 64) and it had groovy movies. It felt like a thrill to play! I have always played on the real maps, mostly playing some mediterranian culture, mostly Romans. I played civ2 until I mastered it completely, scoring well over 400% on emperor level. It just kept being fun!
The realism was OK, well, we all know it's a game, but I was never bothered by anything like "Oh, man, that is just worthless!"
Then I bought civ 3...
I understand it is a different game, and I understand it will take some time to learn it. I have now played for several months, and my conclusion is....I hate it!
Every game is just the same! I get the bloody resources, I stay behind the computor in the early days (I have 0 tax, total research, as big as anyone else, library in all cities, and I still fall behind.
Well, no problem! I start to trade! Presto, I am the richest civ in thed game and get all the techs. The someone goes to war with me, usually some stupid people that I never even heard of, as like the Aztecs stuck in Australia when I am holding France...
Some other, closer civ joins in, and we slug it out a bit! I always win, since I charge their capitol. With the new stacking system, it's real easy to make an army that just can't get defeated. Even a large army of hopelassy outdated forces will win. The old militia against the army of Norman Schwartzkopf. Hey, they march on, dying in their thousand, but still take the capitol. Make peace, offer the capitol for a few other cities, do it all again a few times, and one civ less to worry about. Now I am quite big. I am getting ahead in tech! Noone bothers me, the other civs just start making war on the weakling, all joining up on some wird crusade, kill off one player, then go for the next one. I sometimes join in, getting a few extra town, or just walk behiund their advancing troops, using settlers to found new cities. The culture flipping is great! Armies numbering millions of men, in huge cities, revert to me! I win by either killing EVERYTHING with tanks, or by a diplomatic victory, while 10000000000000 stealthplanes can't sink the triremes of Pompey, the Siox raiders charge modern USA and fight the Abrahms tanks to a standstill. Didn't you know that a guy on a horse with a bow and arrow CAN blow up a platoon of tanks, if the tanks are hurt and the rider aims carefully! My cities are usually fantastic, since all the great projects of ancient time that litter the streets. I will always remember the Barracks of Rome, that took 1500 years to build. Well, actually, I was building the Pyramids, but since a migrating bird told me that they had been build in the Andes, I had to change to project and build the MOST IMPRESSIVE BARRACKS EVER instead. Other great buildings are the Wall of babylon, at first designed to be a Library, but 800 years lated my architect took acid or someting and made all the books in papier maché and formed a wall. Lucky that was too, since later on, the Zulu nation, once wronged, 5000 years ago, decided to avenge and attacked.
However, the greatest threat has always been the allied workes...French workers, protected by a Right of Passage, entered my realm, and started planting large aereas of woodland in my field?! I returned the quin by irrigating their mines. I wonder why nations declare war on eachother, when you just can send a workforce to rebuild another country. I wonder what Bush would say to the EC ministers planting bamboo in the Oval office.
I've played a lot of games, and most pc games have a better grasp of reality and coherance then civ. Sorry, but civ3 sucks!