warpus
In pork I trust
The purpose of the justice system is not revenge, but justice, two entirely different things. Revenge has no place in the courts.
The Dutch gay HIV rape gang trial
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The purpose of the justice system is not revenge, but justice, two entirely different things. Revenge has no place in the courts.
Bartleby
Remembers laughter
It doesn't strike me as evil, it seems more mad.
Masquerouge
Deity
Revenge is not justice.
And we have a justice system precisely because revenge does not work.
aneeshm
Deity
There are some cases when revenge is the higher justice.
Masquerouge
Deity
Says who? The guy who wants to torture, burn and leave people to die from AIDS?
silver 2039
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Well....thats one title I never thought I would see...
Anyway thats just weird and twisted.....
Anyway thats just weird and twisted.....
skadistic
Caomhanach
Can't revenge and justice have the same outcome? Why are the exclusive?
GenMarshall
High Elven ISB Capt & Ghost Agent
Rape is rape, no matter what the sexual orientation of the victim and the perpitrator. Also, if one knows that he or she has HIV and just has sex without protection, it's like using a deadly weapon.
Masquerouge
Deity
Because people who want revenge are going to maim and torture people in an irrational way, while justice will try to make sure that the accused are guilty, and will provide barbaric sentences.
I suspect that in 15 years, we'll have a solid cure for HIV.
Guess who I nominate to be a member of every single clinical trial (for HIV) until then?
skadistic
Caomhanach
But lets say they are found guilty why does it matter if some one gets revenge when in the end justice for the greater community is served. People like this don't deserve anything short of being wholly eliminated from the world. Does it really mater if they suffer or how much. Personally I'd lock them in a room with a dull knife and no food. And I'd expect the same for me if I ever did something this evil.
Masquerouge
Deity
But you're acting on emotions: anger, hate, passion... Justice acts on reason.
It matters a whole lot because if we say revenge is the way to go we're no better than the criminals since we're doing the exact same thing we've condemned them for.
Urederra
Mostly harmless
And letting the victims pay for the medication and housing of their rapists is justice?
skadistic
Caomhanach
No its not the same. What crime did these victims commit to be intentionally infected with a highly deadly and contagious illness?
Justice finds them guilty or not, vengeance sees to it they are punished.
Jawz II
Oh Dear
What the hell was that?
Where did that come from? funny.
EDIT: oh you mean life in prison, ok not so funny.
nivi
Call me Ishmael
An eye for an eye is not justice? Seems to me like ultimate justice.
As they say, "Let the punishment fit the crime"
Masquerouge
Deity
mmmh you're doing that emotional thing again. That's not justice.
Vengeance is much more likely to start a family feud than anything else.
Masquerouge
Deity
Oh, yeah. What happens if the guy who killed one of your eyes had only one valid eye because of a genetic defect?
An eye for an eye will make him blind, while you will still be able to see.
Now what?
yeah agreed, that's what I was thinking about.
Hmm from many of these posts I get the impression that the judical system of western democracies seems to be quite unpopular.
I don't really see why though..
aneeshm
Deity
They're gay, and I'm sure their family is ashamed as hell of them.
No family feuds here.
