The English Speaking Peoples

[Ozz]

Winston Chruchill once suggested reuniting all the English speaking peoples in one common citizenship. (Austrailia, Britain, Canada, New Zealand & The United States)(Quote from His Second World War Book Set). FDR was not interested. What is the stronger force today? Nationalism or Globalism. If the world is ever going to unite this would seem a logical first step.

This was going to be a poll

1 Yes, Reunite
2 No Never
3 USA rules already

 

[damunzy]

Nationalism....it has been so deeply ingrained in me, and I am sure many other Americans (I can't speak for other countries) that it would be extremely hard, at least for this generation, to think in a global way.......unless the USofA is leading it.

 

[Ozz]

You would have voted #3

 

[Ozz]

Originally posted by PaleHorse76
Nationalism....it has been so deeply ingrained in me, and I am sure many other Americans (I can't speak for other countries) that it would be extremely hard, at least for this generation, to think in a global way.......unless the USofA is leading it.

USA would dominate by population easly

Austraila 19,357,594 (July 2001 est.)
Britain 59,647,790 (July 2001 est.)
Canada 31,592,805 (July 2001 est.)
New Zealand 3,864,129 (July 2001 est.)
United States 278,058,881 (July 2001 est.)

 

[Simon Darkshade]

No, one prefers Nationalism.
The countries in question are already quite close, and this can and should be enhanced, so we can go to war with the rest of the world, but not to the extent of union.

 

[Sixchan]

Well, I think It'd be a good idea, but not if it was the U.S. was leading it. If I was, though...

 

[MrPresident]

America might dominate but they would still be speaking our language.

 

[amadeus]

Ha! We do not speak English, we speak Americanish!

Color! Labor! Flavor! I love it all!

 

[Groovin']

Nope, never

now why the hell would i want to be lead by the USA, Britian or Australia? considering NZ's population, i dont think we would have much of a say in the running of the 'union'.

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Originally posted by Groovin'
Nope, never

now why the hell would i want to be lead by the USA, Britian or Australia? considering NZ's population, i dont think we would have much of a say in the running of the 'union'.

Well, NZ was ruled and led by Britain, is ruled and led by the USA at the moment, and will be ruled and led by us in the future, so there is problem with that part of the equation.

"i dont think we would have much of a say in the running of the 'union'."

As is rightly so.

 

[Groovin']

Well, NZ was ruled and led by Britain, is ruled and led by the USA at the moment, and will be ruled and led by us in the future, so there is problem with that part of the equation.

"i dont think we would have much of a say in the running of the 'union'."

As is rightly so.[

.... well WAS being the key word with Britian, i'd prefer not to go back to that.... now the US, damn the bastards

(no offence to the americans posting on here intended of course.... )

"as is rightly so.."

hmmmm.....

 

[NY Hoya]

I doubt a political union would be possible considering the relative populations of the countries involved. As I have mentioned before, an economic union/partnership between the countries could be interesting...Oh, as long as we're speculating, can we let Ireland into the mix?

 

[Greadius]

Originally posted by NY Hoya
Oh, as long as we're speculating, can we let Ireland into the mix?

They speak English???

The qualifications for statehood are clear kids. You want a union, you know where to start

 

[Ozz]

I think nationalism is winning, It will be a long time before
we have a united planet (aka star trek). At the time Churchill
suggested the union, UK was alot stronger as compared to
the US today, more of a equal deal.

"Goovin'

Nope, never

now why the hell would i want to be lead by the USA, Britian or Australia? considering NZ's population, i dont think we would have much of a say in the running of the 'union'."

This is one response i did expect. You are right, just like the town i live in has little say in the running of Ontario (Canadian Province) as compared to Toronto.

I think nationism is on the rise, check repub/slovia, Russia,
Yugoslavia, have happened.

Canada-Quebec, Spain-Baeque, France-Brittanny?
There are probably others.

Frankly I myself am undecided, do the math and the
benefits outweight the losses, But emotionally I think
PaleHorse76 say it best.

 

[NY Hoya]

Originally posted by Greadius
They speak English???

uhhhh, sort of?

Besides, aren't there as many or more people of Irish descent in the US as English? Hell, I'm half Irish. Erin Go Braugh!

 

[stormerne]

reuniting all the English speaking peoples in one common citizenship

It's a very silly and irrelevant idea. Perhaps that's wasn't clear at the time, but it's pretty much obvious sixty years on. We have other fish to fry nowadays...

 

[Daaraa]

I can see a union between Canada and the US in the long run.
It will be much like the EU. It could perhaps include Mexico and in the much looonnngggeeerrrr run South and Central America. The US could in a patriotic stupor of thought think they can hack it alone. However, the posibility of prosperity will help change minds. It will be a union witht he US as the leader, head of state etc.

First it will be free trade (we're there, sort of)
Next a lax border (We were there, but not now, we'll be back in a few years guarenteed)
Integrated currency (I can see it happening now with Canadians accepting american $)

Other thoughts that conribute to this thought process:

NORAD already integrated some aspects of the military. We don't have much of a military to speak of. And although Canadians are patriotic and "a distinct society" lol: what an inside joke ) we have a weaker governement system. It basically is like a monarchy right now with appointees and usless MPs or congressmen as the US would call them. The people in my area have voted in a conservative for every election except for 1 since elections were concieved of in the area. Whenever the governement is Liberal, we suffer because of our "lack of loyalty". Does the province of New Brunsiwick have much to say in the Federal politics? No. There are almost as many MPs from NB as there is from Alberta which has over 3 times the population. What a weird governement system we have that leads to regional parties. (Reform, Bloc, Grey) Would Canada have mush of a say in a union? Not really.

 

[IceBlaZe]

It wont help for globalism either.
It will just increase nationalism on non-english speakers.

 

[amadeus]

Originally posted by Daaraa
I can see a union between Canada and the US in the long run.

It's called NAFTA

 

[dannyevilcat]

I can see a union between Canada and the US in the long run.

It'll never happen if I can help it!!!!