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The Epstein Files
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amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
I was surprised when I saw it.
I thought it was likely to be a hoax (not fabricated by the WSJ but maybe somebody else) because it didn’t sound like his voice to me. It sounded corny, and this is saying a lot for a guy who once starred in a Pizza Hut commercial. So did Gorbachev, but that’s neither here nor there.
Maybe someone else wrote it and he signed off on it and drew it, but even that being the case he is responsible for its content. Does that mean Donald Trump is a closet conspirator of Epstein? That would be a pretty wild leap since we know he broke off any ties, if my recollection serves correctly, after his first conviction.
Not great for optics, but he’s still in very plausible deniability territory. Folks that stuck around after his first pinch, can’t say with the same confidence.
Ordnael
I'll be the roundabout
Like a movie about undercover agents that go to deep into faking a life so did Donald had a hard time getting back to his handlers into the side of justice!
amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
Al Sharpton was once supposedly an FBI informant recording conversations with the mafia and Elvis wanted to spy on the Beatles. Wacky stuff happens sometimes, but I hold still that the burden of proof lies on the person making the claim rather than speculating on how true it could be.
On Sunday, his office released a statement modifying that claim.
“The Speaker is reiterating what the victims’ attorney said, which is that Donald Trump — who kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago — was the only one more than a decade ago willing to help prosecutors expose Epstein for being a disgusting child predator,” the statement from Johnson’s office read.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/09/07/trump-epstein-johnson-fbi/
Morale of the story; if you finesse the vocabulary of a bold faced lie, then it's no longer a lie.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
DoJ official makes Epstein cover-up claims in hinge date honey trap
In a statement released by the DOJ Joseph Schnitt said he had only been commenting on what he heard in the media.
www.newsweek.com
Also "Trump's name wont be on it" as in Trumps name is currently on there?
Analysis of Trump's birthday book post. Likely paywalled.
No paywall
No paywall
Based on Trump's complaints of Epstein stealing employees from Mar-a-Largo, the relationship was basically Epstein poaching women/girls that were too old for Trump, but old enough for Epstein
Morale of the story; if you finesse the vocabulary of a bold faced lie, then it's no longer a lie.
"The president only became a paedophile to expose a bigger one" is hardly the ringing endorsement he probably intended it to be.
Epstein 50th birthday book: who is in it and what did they say?
Figures including Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and the UK ambassador to US, Peter Mandelson, apparently contributed
Epstein 50th birthday book: who is in it and what did they say?
Figures including Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and the UK ambassador to US, Peter Mandelson, apparently contributed
www.theguardian.com
Lexicus
Deity
I was surprised when I saw it.
I thought it was likely to be a hoax (not fabricated by the WSJ but maybe somebody else) because it didn’t sound like his voice to me. It sounded corny, and this is saying a lot for a guy who once starred in a Pizza Hut commercial. So did Gorbachev, but that’s neither here nor there.
Maybe someone else wrote it and he signed off on it and drew it, but even that being the case he is responsible for its content. Does that mean Donald Trump is a closet conspirator of Epstein? That would be a pretty wild leap since we know he broke off any ties, if my recollection serves correctly, after his first conviction.
Not great for optics, but he’s still in very plausible deniability territory. Folks that stuck around after his first pinch, can’t say with the same confidence.
There is a scene from the OJ documentary where one of OJ's closest friends recounts going to OJ's house to ask him about the murders, and the guy says as soon as he got back to his car he broke down crying "because I knew he did it." The contrast between that display of humanity, of anguish in the face of a close friend having committed this unspeakable crime, and whatever is being expressed in this post is, I think, instructive. And Trump isn't even your friend: he would throw you, alive, into a fire for his own advantage.
"The president only became a paedophile to expose a bigger one" is hardly the ringing endorsement he probably intended it to be.
I mean, it wouldn't even be that. Taken at face value, it would mean that Trump was a pedophile, got caught, and turned state's evidence in exhange for some favorable treatment (immunity, lesser charges, etc) from prosecutors.
More on the Birthday book.
www.aol.co.uk
Everything we learned from the creepy, ultra-redacted Epstein 'birthday book'
The US government has released a revealing book made for Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th birthday. Here are the key takeaways
www.aol.co.uk
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
I was surprised when I saw it.
I thought it was likely to be a hoax (not fabricated by the WSJ but maybe somebody else) because it didn’t sound like his voice to me. It sounded corny, and this is saying a lot for a guy who once starred in a Pizza Hut commercial. So did Gorbachev, but that’s neither here nor there.
Maybe someone else wrote it and he signed off on it and drew it, but even that being the case he is responsible for its content. Does that mean Donald Trump is a closet conspirator of Epstein? That would be a pretty wild leap since we know he broke off any ties, if my recollection serves correctly, after his first conviction.
Not great for optics, but he’s still in very plausible deniability territory. Folks that stuck around after his first pinch, can’t say with the same confidence.
He raped children. He raped adults. You do not have to cape for him. This post is going to look even worse in 6 months.
More on the Birthday book.
Everything we learned from the creepy, ultra-redacted Epstein 'birthday book'
The US government has released a revealing book made for Jeffrey Epstein’s 50th birthday. Here are the key takeaways
Trump is literally one of the 3 most frequent names in the book. Guys I am beginning to think this dude is the green river killer of pedophilia.
Gori the Grey
The Poster
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This is not remotely plausible.
Donald: I have a friend who has a birthday coming up, and I've been asked to contribute a message to his birthday book. I want you to write something for me.
[Leaves the room]
Assistant: Hmmmm. Let's see. Let's see. Ok, I'll write a dialogue between Mr. Trump and his friend in which they go back and forth in a cryptic way about secrets that they share. That will make a great contribution to a book celebrating his friend's birthday. And it will just so happen that the outline of a small-breasted woman can be drawn around the remarks making up that dialogue.
The only possible agent for the production of this text is Trump. I agree with you that it's not exactly the voice we tend to associate with Trump. But 1) it's in a genre where we generally don't see him composing. And 2) it could be the product of a person who spends a lot of time on a communication medium that counts messages by the number of individual characters that make them up. And 3) he does favor the dialogue form: all of his "they came up to me with tears in their eyes and said 'Sir . . . '"
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amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
I don’t think you’ve put a lot of thought into this. The relationship between a close friend accused of murder, and my non-existent relationship with a political figure who wrote a weird letter—you see that difference as being indicative of something, and make some insinuation (about me) based off that.
I simply didn’t think it sounded like him. Then again, I’ve never seen him write dialogue. I’m just open to the possibility based on this cursory reading.
Gori the Grey
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I added a little bit that acknowledges this, but also addresses this.
He actually does construct a lot of mini dialogues.
amadeus
rad thibodeaux-xs
The book (2003) predates Twitter, so I don’t see that as being a factor but you do make a good point about him writing in a genre in which we don’t see his work often, and if this letter is indicative of his literary stylings, something we should all be thankful for.
edit: his fiction would be second only to Nebraska in corn production
