The Greatest City: Voting

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This thread is to host the poll for the "greatest" city in RFC BTS [newest/last version]. If anyone cares to question the purpose of this poll, it is to discover the best cities for OCCs and giga-empires, allow for some reasonable debate, and provide a sort of entertainment just for the heck of it, and discuss RFC in general, much like any other thread posted in forums.

Rules and Processes
Everyone gets 10 votes that they can use, but may not use multiple for the same city. (Basically your top 10.)
Cities are sorted by how many votes they have attained, and results will be posted by me throughout the thread by updates.
Changing votes is allowed.
After voting has stagnated, the top cities will be taken to finals, which may or may not be in this thread, depending on how things go.
Cities may be added, though this is not too encouraged due to difficulty with editing the OP.
Please ask about cities that you do not know the location of. Even the most cryptic city deserves consideration.
You may attempt to persuade others to vote in favor of your opinions--or even have them change their votes--through polite debate, as with any other thread. (For example, posting why you picked certain cities in your votes.)
Coastal cities are assumed to have the Maoi Statues and Colossus, even though the water tiles will still not be very good.

Things to take into Consideration
Number of workable tiles.
Coast or not, though less is better.
Rivers+Levee=Win
Common sense is always good too.
Strategic resources that can be reached by culture, as if there were no other cities to do so.
Resources and terrain changes that take place over time, especially the colonial ones.
NOT proximity to and synergy with other cities, this is stand-alone cities only.
NOT the civilization using it, it does not matter.
NOT the time period, this is for the best cities of all times, though later is more important.
Alphabetical order is nice. :)

North America (13)
Spoiler :
Chicago
Chicago (Between the Corns)
Denver (Oil)
Denver (Hill)
Grand Forks
Milwaukee
New York
Oklahoma
Philedelphia
Sioux Falls
Tlaxcala
Washington
Wichita


South America (7)
Spoiler :
Belém/France Equinoxiale/Fort Zeelandia (Amazon Delta)
Buenos Aires
Caracas
Montevideo/River Plates
[1W of Montevideo]
Recife/Mauritsstad
Rio de Janeiro


Europe (30)
Spoiler :
Amiens/Samarobriva
Arretium [1 north of Rome]
Athens
Budapest
Caricyn/ Stalingrad (2 north of sheep)
Constantinople/Byzantion/Istanbul
Copenhagen/Kopenhagen
Danzig
Dublin
Dyrrachium/Durres
Frankfurt/Maize/Suttgart
Frankfurt (1 North)
Frederikstad/Kiel
Geneve (2N of Marseilles)
Kiev/Kyiv (2N of Iron)
Korinthos (SW of Athenai, on marble)
Limerick
Lisbonne/Lisboa/Lisbon
London
Lulea
Nottingham
Novosibirsk
Pampalona
Ponta Deglada
Riga
Rjazan/Ryazan [1 south of Moscow]
Rome
Zagreb
Southampton
Voronezh


Asia (26)
Spoiler :
Anomen
Akkad (1 N of Babylon)
Assur (1 NE of Babylon)
Babylon/Babilu/Bagdad/Bagdat
Bangkok
Beijing
Beijing (1 East)
Chennai
Chojbalsan (on the desert hill 2 E of Ulaan-Ude)
Delhi
Hanoi
Hiroshima
Karakorum
Konya
Nancheng (1 west of the marble)
Pyongyang (1N of Hancheng, on pig)
Samarkand/Afrosaib
Seoul/Hancheng/Hanseong/Keijou
Seoul (On the deer)
Sirajis (1 north of elephant/1 south of Parsa)
Shanghai
Susa/Sushan/Sush
[1 south of Susa]
Tokyo/Edo
Ulan Ude
Wuhan


Australia/Indonesia/Oceania/Africa (8)
Spoiler :
Adelaide/Terre Napoléon
Al-Karijah/Luxor
Durban/Sofala/Winburg
Jayakarta
Manila
Port Nolloth
Singapura/Singapore
Sydney

(84 Cities)


I will use my votes as an example, though I will likely change them at some point. I do not quite have enough time to explain them now, so I will likely later.

Amiens/Samarobriva (1 NE of Paris)
Arretium (1N of Rome)
Chicago
Nancheng (1W of Marble)
Rjazan (1S of Moscow)
Seoul (On the Deer)
Tokyo/Edo
Wichita (NA Goody Hut)
Wuhan
Zagreb (1S of Budapest)
 
Frankfurt (1 North of the 600 AD Frankfurt)
Budapest (1 South of the deer)
Nanchang (1 West of the Marble, although apparently in newer versions it is called Nancheng...)
Seoul (On the deer)
Tlaxcala (1 North of the river, 1 NE of Tenochtitlan)
Danzig
Washington
Zagreb
Beijing
Denver (Oil)
I listed them in order of what ones I like more, so if there is a tie between ones I have chosen, choose the higher-up ones
I HAVE EDITED THIS. UPDATE POLL RESULTS
 
Uhhh, Sydney and Adelaide/Terre Napoléon are on very different tiles. Sydney is East near the crab and Adelaide is south near the uranium and silver. They both have 1 sheep in their BFC (the only 2 Australian sheep that appear in 1850).

Strangely almost all tiles in Southeast Australia are called Nieuw Holland for the Dutch. Southeast Australia isn't within the Dutch green zone, so Dutch cities in that area are rare.

So, to avoid confusion let's make it:

Sydney and Adelaide/Terre Napoléon


Also, on another note: You can't assume any coastal city in the Americas (except maybe for Maya) to have the Collosus and the Maoi Statues.
 
Luckily, I can still edit the OP, so yeah.

As for the wonders in America: Unless you WB one there. ;) Actually, assuming the 3000BC start, any location on the planet could have the wonders if you get Astronomy first, get a goody hut settler with a caravel, or the Maya just settle anywhere. But this is the location we are looking for mostly. Never mind, the Colossus is obsolete with with Astronomy, so it can only be gotten by the latter two ways.

Here are the votes, though we could use some more:

1 Vote
Spoiler :
Amiens/Samarobriva (1 NE of Paris)
Arretium (1N of Rome)
Constantinople/Byzantium/Istanbul
Beijing
Belem
[1N of Buenos Aires]
Danzig
Denver (Oil)
Frankfurt (1N of 600AD One)
Kiev (2N of Iron)
Limerick
Nancheng (1W of Marble)
Philidelphia
Rjazan (1S of Moscow)
Tlaxcala (1NE Tenochitlan)
Tokyo/Edo
Washington
Wichita (NA Goody Hut)


2 Votes
Spoiler :
Budapest (1S of Deer)
Chicago and Chicago between Corns
Nanch(a/e)ng (1W of Marble)
Seoul (On the Deer)
Wuhan
Zagreb (1S of Budapest)
 
Okey my votes: Belem, Budapest (1S of deer), 1N of Buenos Aires (on the corn), Chennai, Chicago (between the corns), Denver (oil), Istanbul, Kiev (2N of Iron), Philadelphia and Wuhan.
 
Many of your cities are slightly off of the location of nominated cities, and may confuse some people, so I am considering them the same for now, unless someone has a problem with that.

(The previous post has the updates.)
 
The Kiev I mentioned is by far better than the other Kiev (1S), so I would consider that as the real Kiev for this poll. Buenos Aires (it actually has another name) on the corn is the best city around that area. There are two great Chicagos, the one I mentioned and the one 1SE from it. Mine grows really big and the other has better production, so I would separate them. I believe the others are in order.
 
Dyrrachium/Durres/Epidamnos (its SE of the copper, on the hill in case you're confused.)
London
Konya
Moscow
Berlin
Kyouto
Frankfurt
Rome
Constantinople/Istanbul
Paris

I could think of alot more.But these are my votes.
 
My votes:

- Frankfurt 1 north
- Lulea
- Rome
- Korinthos
- Chojbalsan
- Wuhan
- Adelaide
- Sofala (1 NE of gold)
- Chicago (1 W of iron)
- Recife/Mauritsstad
 
- Tokyo
- Constantinople
- Chicago (1W of iron)
- Denver (oil)
- Paris
- Rome
- Seoul (deer)
- Budapest (1S of deer)
- Kiev (2N of iron)
- Frankfurt (1N of 600ad)
 
Denver. Nuff said.
 
Actually, not quite. You're asking the wrong question. The right one is: which cities are the greatest for the era that they flourished in? I.e. for the amount of technology you have, which cities have tiles that, when worked, give you the most production? Denver would be useless early on (lack of growth resources and can't work hills effectively without growth).

Ancient: Siwa, Beijing, 1S of Shush(on the coast), Lahore
Classical: Corinthos, Beijing, Kyoto, Rome OR Mediolanum but not both
Medieval and Renaissance: some of the cities on your list but you forgot about Tlaxcala (2N of Tenochtitlan, i.e. not on the coast)
Modern: Budapest, Kiev, Ryazan, 1N Frankfurt, Chicago, Denver, Hanoi--note that these all have rivers for levees, plenty of hills and plains.

That is why Timbuktu is a sad mismatch--lots of floodplains but no production--would have been great in the Ancient era if it had a stone or marble on a floodplain.
 
That is why Timbuktu is a sad mismatch--lots of floodplains but no production--would have been great in the Ancient era if it had a stone or marble on a floodplain.

I totally agree. Mali deserves a stone on one of the tiles around Timbuktu.

They even may start with Paper, because I would like to see the University of Sankore actually build in Timbuktu for once. With help from the stone.
Maybe give them Paper and Calendar instead of Divine Right wouldn't change the balance too much?
 
@Jarlaxe Baenre: I got you changes.
@Jusos2108: I corrected the cities.
@Magnificent One: Are you sure about all of those? Some of them, specifically as Rome, Paris, Moscow and Frankfurt have cities that are generally considered much better nearby. (Arettium, Amiens, Rjazan, and Frankfurt 1N receptively.)
@nody: Where is Chojbalsan again?
@AnotherPacifist: It seems that the thread has developed to focus on the modern cities specifically, so I will count you 7 noted ones as your votes for now.

And as for the votes...

1 Vote
Spoiler :
Adelaide
Amiens/Samarobriva (1 NE of Paris)
Amiens/Samarobriva (1 NE of Paris)
Arretium (1N of Rome)
Belem (Amazon River Delta)
Berlin
1N of Buenos Aires (on the corn)
Chennai
Chicago (between the corns)
Chojbalsan
Danzig
Dyrrachium/Durres/Epidamnos (1SE of the copper north of Greece)
Frankfurt
Hanoi
Korinthos (1SW of Athens, on the marble)
Kyouto
London
Lulea
Moscow
Philedelphia
Recife/Mauritsstad
Sofala (1 NE of gold in South Africa)
Tlaxcala (1 North of the river, 1 NE of Tenochtitlan)
Wichita (NA Goody Hut)
Washington
Zagreb


2 Votes
Spoiler :
Beijing
Nanch(e/a)ng (1W of Marble)
Paris
Rjazan/Ryazan (1S of Moscow)
Tokyo/Edo
Zagreb (1S of Budapest)


3 Votes
Spoiler :
Budapest (1S of the deer)
Constantinople/Istanbul/Byzantium
Kiev (2N of Iron)
Rome
Seoul (On the Deer)
Wuhan


4 Votes
Spoiler :
Frankfurt (1N)
Chicago (1W of the iron)
Denver (Oil)



It seems that the American supercities of Chicago and Denver are winning! :cool: And apparently Frankfurt (1N) too. Next time I play France and Raise Frankfurt to settle a city later, I am trying this out instead.
 
Chojbalsan is on the desert hill 2 tiles east of Ulaan-Ude.


Medieval and Renaissance: some of the cities on your list but you forgot about Tlaxcala (2N of Tenochtitlan, i.e. not on the coast)

2 north (on the hill) of Tenochtitlan is called Tuitan, just like 3 north.

The Tlaxcala on this list is 1 NE of Tenochtitlan (between the corns) on the coast.
 
[1W of Montevideo]
Denver (Oil)
Chicago
Rome
Beijing (1 East)
Hanoi
Pyongyang (1N of Hancheng, on pig)
Durban/Sofala/Winburg
Lulea
Philedelphia
 
I thought the Frankfurt was the Frankfurt 1N.And i've neve rliked Danzig.

I re-vote
Dyrrachium/Durres/Epidamnos (its SE of the copper, on the hill in case you're confused.)
London
Konya
Moscow
Berlin
Kyouto
Frankfurt 1N
Rome
Constantinople/Istanbul
Lisbon
 
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