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The Hotfixxer

Discussion in 'Community Patch Project' started by Enginseer, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    In this thread, an unofficial patch can be subscribed to that allows you to play with fewer bugs for that perfect game feel apparent.

    Balance complaints concerns are also addressed. Unlike all my other mods, this mod is by the community and changed for the community. Not to my peculiar agenda or whatever. except Corporate Franchises. I still hold true to that idea.

    Subscribe here!
    Spoiler :
     
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  2. Bromar1

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    Cool, looking forward to seeing that list more fleshed out
     
  3. Blue Ghost

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    I appreciate the effort, but isn't this exactly what Vox Populi is doing? If there is community consensus around balance issues, it seems it would be more efficient to have them addressed in VP rather than having a divergent modmod to fix them.
     
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  4. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    Gazebo can't update like he used to because of RL work as always, so we might get updates in... a week or so which is not bad but the modmod is meant to complement with whatever the version it was meant for not to be used in future versions that existed after the said date to hotfix any problem and experiment some cool features.

    This wasn't meant to replace Gazebo's updates, but rather hotfix them if a hotfix cannot be done.
     
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  5. doublex55

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    Can you pick which changes you want by editing the mod file? Or is it all or nothing?
     
  6. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    You can pick, just delete whatever file changes in the adjustion was made like say if you don't like the Japan/Fealty changes, you can just delete the file Japan/Fealty.

    However, there are core files that aren't separated because it was meant to be fixed either way such as the Austrian and Indonesian changes.

    I'll provide justification for Fealty however. Since it was meant to be played as a wide tree, the changes were made to appeal toward more wide players.
     
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  7. Gazebo

    Gazebo Lord of the Community Patch Supporter

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    I understand why this exists, and I appreciate the effort, but it does feel a bit like an usurpation of the CBO's role. If you'd prefer to take over the CBO I'm happy to oblige, but I don't think we need both a balance mod and a balance mod mod.

    G
     
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  8. doublex55

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    I will say that allowing the atlatlist to keep its promotion on upgrade is a huge buff to the maya. They are in a good spot right now so it needs to be balanced with a nerf in another area.
     
  9. glider1

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    It is a good idea to have a backup plan for the mod so that there is somebody with the skills can continue to adjust the mod and learn software skills.
    It is also good to have an "unofficial" balance version running alongside an "official" balance version.
    This thread should have been called the "unofficial balance patch" and all would have been cool.

    That said, the "official" version would be good to turn around roughly every two weeks because that would be the minimum time to collect sufficient opinions and data - and we aren't even at two weeks for the official version any way.

    Cheers.
     
  10. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    Answered it for me. I'm not taking responsibility for the CBO's role at all. I just wanted to share this out for people who prefer a more perfect game as the Austrian upgrade bug ruined my Austria hussars upgrade path and had to start over from scratch again in another random test game.
     
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    This might be a good test ground, something like more frequent patches, more stuff to test, +additional ideas to think about
     
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    I really dont like the change of fealty in order to "soft" nerf it although fealty just need a hard nerf and keep the same scaler so no policy gets its weight increased by the addition of vase yield.
    Remove production or food and keep the tree as it is.
    You will still get production or food from the finisher
     
  13. CrazyG

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    I don't exactly understand what this is. Is it like a beta version which tests out balance ideas?
     
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  14. Enginseer

    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    That's fair, I introduced an alternative revision that can be replaced by deleting the file name.
     
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    How about those religious buildings...

    If anything could be done to improve such a cool game it's add more to religions. Make a actually use them more gooder
     
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    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    Huh?
     
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    Its quite simple....use them more gooder :lol:
     
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    Enginseer, why just don't do fixes in main project? Install another modmod is not a good solution. Then Gazebo will take your fixes and recompile the main project...
    And if u will do it in main project, then we will see just your posts(instead of Gazebos) with hotfix updates in "new version" threads :king:
    Don't be lazy to use GitHub advantages :grouphug:
     
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    Enginseer Salientia of the Community Patch Supporter

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    I already did that. Core fixes are pull requested, but doesn't mean they're automatically update.

    Non-core fixes like balance developments can't be pull-requested because they're not exactly approved yet.
     
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    So you are continuosly updating this? Also, Gazebo has said that he is olanning on increasing late game purchase costs. Shouldn't that be in here as well?
     

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