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The inhumane conditions of Bradley Manning's detention

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by nikosison, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. nikosison

    nikosison Chieftain

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    I don't care what he did, but at the very least he deserves a trial. If the US is willing to give suspected terrorists a trial, then why shouldn't one of its soldiers get one.
     
  2. civver_764

    civver_764 Deity

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    Go back to bed America, your government is in control again.

    :(
     
  3. galdre

    galdre Emperor

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    ok

    :cool:
     
  4. Theige

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    He was charged in July, I can only assume his trial is forthcoming...

    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
     
  5. NovaKart

    NovaKart شێری گەورە

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    What was the crime?
     
  6. Theige

    Theige American Baron

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    Wikipedia is your friend.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Arrest_and_criminal_charges
     
  7. civver_764

    civver_764 Deity

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    Daring to stand against the world's most powerful imperialist force.

    No doubt he will be revered in generations to come.
     
  8. NovaKart

    NovaKart شێری گەورە

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    That doesn't really tell us much. The article mentioned in the OP is really troubling. It makes us question the actions of the US in Iraq and if we remember what went on in Vietnam we should already have been doing that.
     
  9. Patroklos

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    Yeah, there is absolutely nothing shocking or even remotely disturbing in the OP.

    He committed espionage, game over.
     
  10. bhsup

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    Aww, cry me a river. Maybe he shouldn't have betrayed his country.
     
  11. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    In the Military Justice System, do they still have the concept of 'innocent until proven guilty'? If yes, then this seems awfully harsh. He has only been charged with a crime, not proven of anything.

    Lastly, isn't he still entitled to certain levels of humane treatment as defined by international accords we have signed?

    Nice to know where you stand on legal concepts enshrined in our Constitution. Nice to know we can be just as bad as the USSR, but it doesn't matter. USA #1!
     
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    Not giving someone sheets, pillows - It's not shocking but seems vindictive and just plain stupid.

    The arrest of those giving out "insurgent literature" which was just a critique of Maliki

    The disturbing diplomatic cables

    The apache helicopter attack

    Answers for that?
     
  13. Hehehe

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    It's not the jailtime that bothers me, it's the torture Manning is subjected to (solitary confinement is inhumane, as the article points out). I just didn't think the US would torture US citizens.
     
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    Don't impose the punishment until you have secured the conviction.
     
  15. Azale

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    He hasn't even been convicted yet you fascists.


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    Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889
     
  16. civver_764

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    So the country > the individual now?

    That's one of the key tenets of fascism, no?
     
  17. holy king

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    meh, where in the constitution does it say you have to be convicted to be punished?
     
  18. ParkCungHee

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    Article 3.
     
  19. holy king

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    meh, who takes the constitution literal?
     
  20. JollyRoger

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    That was amended by Catch-22.
     

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