So Absinthe mentioned that maybe we could start a brainstorming thread about the four new civs, especially Sicily. Here are some blatherings: Start date: Either 1071 (County of Sicily) or 1130 (Kingdom of Sicily) UU: Mouthwash suggested Norman Knights in the other thread, and I agree, although I'm not sure what bonus to give them. UB: The only thing I've been able to dig up so far is Palazzo dei Normanni/Palatine Chapel, but there's only one of them. I haven't found anything yet about something unique to Sicily/Mezzogiorno that they built in several places. UP: Something Crusade-related, maybe? Apparently there were Catholics, Muslims and Jews in relative harmony even while the Crusades were raging. So possibly all of their cities automatically get all three of those religions with no stability bonus. and/or The KoS didn't really send many of its own soldiers to the Holy Land- maybe Sicily doesn't lose any units to Crusades but gets full credit from the Pope. and/or It's my understanding that Sicily got filthy rich from all the crusading armies coming through Messina and other port cities, maybe they can just get a chunk of gold every time there's a Crusade.