The Macedonian Naming Dispute

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I so want to rename Missouri to Macedonia now.

PLEASE! It would end the whole Missouri vs. Missouruh debate. In other news, the glorious Republic of Georgia has declared war on those history-stealing people of Atlanta for slighting the sacred honor of Georgia.
 
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Today greece is a craphole. We also have idiots politicians that stole the peoples money created villas and even today with the economical cricis they keep stealing the public money and no one of the has been ever jailed since 1974.
Don't forget the people!

We greeks are nationalist and i like it. Because we defend our history and also we have a history.

300 spartans faced 1.000.000 persians.

Alexander the great created a huge greek empire.

Byzantium was a greek orthodox empire.

Papaflesas fought at 1825 with 300 soldiers against 6.000 turks.

At ww2 greece was the first country to have won the axis on land.
The Continental Army won at Yorktown!

We got big!

We chose Free Religion!

WE beat back the Germans in WWII!

Does this mean we have the right to tell everyone that the USA really owns all of the Americas because we are nationalist and we got that name?

No.

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To all non greeks: Macedonia is greek and i dont care what you say.End of this thread.
christos, doing this is why no one believes you. When you are not willing to listen to other's opinions and actually take them into account, no one will listen to you.

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PLEASE! It would end the whole Missouri vs. Missouruh debate. In other news, the glorious Republic of Georgia has declared war on those history-stealing people of Atlanta for slighting the sacred honor of Georgia.
Yes! Those people say the are Georgian, but they really are AMERICAN! (Gasp!) And they stole our name! (Double Gasp!) Lets invade them to show tham that coincidentally having our name coincidentally is punishable!
 
Honestly Greeks are just a bunch of petty over-nationlistic babies on this issue, who, if they spent half as much effort and will on running their country as they did bullying a peaceful neighbor might not be a failed parasitic leech helping to drag down the EU. The whole world should ignore their opinion, call Macedonia what it wants to be called, and move on.

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Did you just call the Byzantine Empire Greek? I know they spoke Greek, but they considered themselves Romans. That just seems a little odd to me. Your nationalism is quite beyond reason no offense. The Byzantine Empire was the East Roman Empire and even though it spoke Greek it considered itself Roman till its eventual destruction. You can't just go and say they are part of your national history when they didn't even consider themselves what you consider yourself.
 
Only in the sense that he was born in the area that would become part of the modern day Republic of Greece. His contemporaries from Athens, Sparta, Corinth, Delphi, and other objectively Greek cities wouldn't have identified him as such, and I don't see why I should consider you to be a better judge of Greekness than they, or why establishing Greekness really matters in terms of a man who died 2300 years ago.

Actually, Alexander the Great was very probably Greek, in that the King of the Macedonians was entitled to take part in the Olympic Games, which were open to Greeks only. The status of his subjects is rather more doubtful; I suppose it's rather like whether we consider the Cornish to be 'English' or something of their own. That said, his empire can barely be considered Greek in the form that Pericles or even Epaminondas would have recognised; by the time the rather un-Greek idea of monarchy and other generally foreign Macedonian influences had mingled with Alexander's rather bizzare fetish for Persian and other Eastern cultures with a small influence from 'real' Greece his empire was a completely different beast altogether. The nearest thing we have to a 'Greek Empire' is Athens' Delian League, and the status of that as an empire is rather doubtful; it depends on whether a republic can be said to lead an empire (although the French Empire is a commonly used phrase) and whether Athenian control over its 'allies' amounted to actual dominance in effect.
 
PLEASE! It would end the whole Missouri vs. Missouruh debate. In other news, the glorious Republic of Georgia has declared war on those history-stealing people of Atlanta for slighting the sacred honor of Georgia.
Breaking news: In a similar move, Scotland has surprise-attacked Albania for laying unlawful claims on their former Latin name.

Meanwhile, with Georgian attacks on the US east coast successful, the government at Tiflis considers to attack Spain and Portugal as well for offending the Kingdom of Iberia's name.
 
Actually, Alexander the Great was very probably Greek, in that the King of the Macedonians was entitled to take part in the Olympic Games, which were open to Greeks only. The status of his subjects is rather more doubtful; I suppose it's rather like whether we consider the Cornish to be 'English' or something of their own. That said, his empire can barely be considered Greek in the form that Pericles or even Epaminondas would have recognised; by the time the rather un-Greek idea of monarchy and other generally foreign Macedonian influences had mingled with Alexander's rather bizzare fetish for Persian and other Eastern cultures with a small influence from 'real' Greece his empire was a completely different beast altogether. The nearest thing we have to a 'Greek Empire' is Athens' Delian League, and the status of that as an empire is rather doubtful; it depends on whether a republic can be said to lead an empire (although the French Empire is a commonly used phrase) and whether Athenian control over its 'allies' amounted to actual dominance in effect.

Wikipedia says that most people didn't really consider them Greek until after the death of Alexander the Great during the rise of the Roman threat. Alexander did appear at the Olympic games, but there were plenty of good political reasons for that and a good deal of controversy ensued. That being said, the national labels slapped on ancient figures are of no consequence to any modern debate.
 
Breaking news: In a similar move, Scotland has surprise-attacked Albania for laying unlawful claims on their former Latin name.

Meanwhile, with Georgian attacks on the US east coast successful, the government at Tiflis considers to attack Spain and Portugal as well for offending the Kingdom of Iberia's name.
The US then launched surprise attacks on all nations with the word "United" in the names due to the offensive nature of this plaugarism!

Also, the USA has take Georgia back under the new name of The Former State of Georgia!

The EU has introduced trade sanctions against the African Union for plaurarism!

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greece really doesnt have a leg to stand on, its just a name, its just another instance of greece living in the ancient past, we may cling to our past glories but at least some of that is only last century, greece takes it back too far,

and saying they cant be macedonian because their slavs is like saying black or asian people cant be british because of their ethnicity, ethnicity and nationality are not always the same thing
 
More the reason Ottoman Empire should reform and everyone in the Balkans be put back under their control.

Ottomania forever!
 
The city of York in England is outraged at the Americans in New York, and are pushing the British Parliament to invade the state of New York!

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