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The Next Major War...

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by CurtSibling, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. r16

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    little Greens or tall Greys ? There would have been Nazis and stuff who would have claimed the early "aliens" were Chinese occultists and allies of Adolf , something called apparently Green Hand or whatever . So , they would be "short" and there should be some Popular Mechanics article from the early 2000s perhaps , stating the Roswell crash was a maybe Japanese construction from perhaps German plans , yours idiotly adding Tibetans or whatever , because he is a good troll who aims to widen the knowledge of all . Over time , for some weird reason , "general American Public" developed a "taste" for being probed in their nether regions and it didn't suit people for these to turn out to be Chinese , like as in short Green Hand men . Despite this rather widespread discussion of tantric practices and while saying this ı have no idea where this tantric as a word even comes from , too, so their "colour" changed . As much as their size and stuff . Kaminoans are the closest , like they are CGI and made up and unreal , just like the Greys ARE . Will not stop Trump to think he is the lizard god or something , though .

    an alien invasion will smash the world , the thing is they have never been encountered here , or like totally , over there . Take my word on this - am an Admiral in the Starfleet .

    a war of Humans , like all wars have been ? It will start accidentally , barring me finally managing to get just one Starship into visible orbit . With the usual machismo leading to limited forces arrayed against each other and everyone expecting the other side to back down but unwillingly to back down for political points back home , because everybody really knows a modern war will BE devastating . This is the thing that makes War possible in the long experience of Mutually Assured Destruction , because Americans (not just because ı loathe their almost sexual obsession to kill us all but they have long been the "top dog") are prime examples ...Of a belief that one has the right to demand the other to back down . You see , the example of the Russian submarine that would fire a nuclear tipped torpedo has already been given in this thread . What is lacking is the American practice at the time , depth charging Russian subs that came to close to US carrier groups and the like , because being "spotted" by the enemy might very well cut down the chances of promotion for the USN officers in charge on location , or something . Apparently very weak charges , hand grenade size perhaps , but it happened regularly . They covered it with "strategic benefit" of the US and its Naval Traditions . Like when a Soviet sub was forced to surface , those in Moscow would see them constructing 500 submarines would just be a waste of resources and time ... One can also expect it never happened after USS Scorpion .

    but will it happen ? In a century where Talk is King ? Was reading some trawled magazine and it seems there is a call for a faster acquisitions cycle , with two pictures of F-105 thrown in ! A plane USAF didn't want , did everything to cut down the price (when TAC used whatever political clout it had because SAC was becoming oppressive and the commands might have been united and that would have cut down so many billets) so it didn't have a spare hydraulics system but came with a nice ashtray in the cockpit ... Do people miss Republic ? ( * ) Am amazed at the good press the F-105 gets in these later days , now that the best thing about the Thunderchief was that it was replaced by the Phantom . War is business , that's all and this fact clouds the whole . Even when people are fighting a war or two .

    one would have supposed that the A-10 , Republic's last , would have been the bestest plane for America to have in this so called War-on-Terror , that it should have been put back into production , 50% of them two seaters , to act as command posts , piloting UAVs , stuff , stuff . It HAS always faced a battle for its retirement . Naturally there is is this research paper that says if the A-10 was retired early they could have bought 44 F-35s instead . Sure , why didn't they ? A-10 was a relic , a Cold War relic , irrelevant , especially its honking big gun , (with ammunition added) as heavy as a Beetle , which is some famous car of the 20th Century , for those of us who were born in the 21st and are yet to see one . No more strafing runs , F-35 will do it with its bombs from miles and miles away . Accordingly , after lengthy battles on the Hill , meaning US Congress , A-10s are once being sent to battle and they will drop JDAMs . The rush job means the plane thinks it's talking to a Maverick missile and the targeting pod thinks it's on an F-16 , is the satisfied narrative , because it's doing the job . But hey , it turns out A-10s can not use the new wonder weapon , because while Lockmart engineers did a nice job in adding the targeting pod , they somehow failed to add some rubber bands or straps or something that needs to be placed on the bomb or whatever . They cost a dollar each . USAF failed to notice this . So when some Air National Guard F-16 pilots saw the coming debacle , they brought some rubber bands from their own squadron stocks , because being in the ANG and stuff they are already in the civilian world and may have jobs already . They can afford serving their country . A-10 starts bombing . So , people suddenly discover the GAU-8 (that honking big and useless gun) is amazing and A-10 pilots are now always asked to strafe ! So much that units in Afghanistan will fire more cannon rounds in weight than bombs they drop ! So that F-35 will still replace the Cold War relic which can't fight a modern war and is just a thing with a gun people do not need anyhow . And all of this is in some Osprey , just slightly less colourful ; they can't afford writing it with the venom it deserves . Translation : Nobody is actually preparing for war , some real war they themselves might get hurt ...
     
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  2. CurtSibling

    CurtSibling ENEMY ACE™ SLeague Staff

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    I'm glad that most Westerners don't hold to this level of blood-thirst and sociopathy.
     
  3. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Veteran of 1000 psycic wars

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    Guess again. You think the rest of the world just sends us their resources because they like us? They live in a world of constant conflict, so they have to pay the thug for hire and they have to buy guns. The number one thug for hire and the number one arms dealer, all rolled into one tidy high living package, that would be US. That's the backbone of the US economy, and without it no one in the US maintains anywhere near the standard of living to which they are accustomed.
     
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  4. Timsup2nothin

    Timsup2nothin Veteran of 1000 psycic wars

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    Well, not openly anyway.
     
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  5. caketastydelish

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    Trump is perhaps the first president that is very honest and upfront about it, which a lot of people like because they see it as authentic.
     
  6. Patine

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    No, of course not, they SUPPOSEDLY all hate our freedom and our better way of life and we're harder workers and more aspiring achievers, and that's the SOLE reason why terrorism and anti-Western sentiment and dictatorships exist in the Third World - not in any way, shape, or form because of Western military, political, or economic actions or policies there. At least that's what a bunch of Neocon nutcases are spewing as propaganda, and there are people who staunchly believe them, and thus feel all Western military interventions in the Third World are just and right, and some Goebbels-school propaganda dehumanization of enemy demographics in their entirely (and the Goebbels-school of propaganda is very strong in modern Western nations, especially the U.S., and ironically even Israel) assuages the guilt over atrocities committed during these interventions.

    There's two things I like about Trump as U.S. President (and yes, I actually found two) - he's actually the least hawkish President since Herbert Hoover, despite the tenor of his attitude, and he's too incompetent, flip-flopping, transparent, and enemy-making to become as bad as he could and do as many disastrous things, and get through and done, as he would probably like.
     
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    Timsup2nothin Veteran of 1000 psycic wars

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    The only thing that keeps Trump "not hawkish" is that he isn't invested in defense companies. Give him a good deal on a big block of Halliburton stock and he'll blow up half the planet.
     
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    "Take that, dastardly free world!"
     
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    If history is any indicator, the next major war will be in Europe, because....Europeans....
     
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  10. Patine

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    I disagree, unless you mean the far eastern part of the Continent. The next war is far more likely, regardless of the precedent of the first two world wars, and the massive military build-up on the Inter-German Border throughout the Cold War, to start in the Middle East, the Far East, South Asia, or because of a Second American Civil War triggered by their currently very obvious vicious, vitriolic, venomous, and internally hate-driven socio-political divide.
     
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    The war will happen because Wicked Witch of the West hates Good Witch of the North.
     
  12. Patine

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    And the charlatan and manipulative Wizard in the middle, whose actually a con-artist and a schuyster (like he was in the book and movie), will facilitate such a war, and play both sides against each other for his own benefit. And it will begin over an act of cowardice, a strawman issue, and a follow-up of utter heartlessness, and well as crashing housing availability. And we'll all wish we had a cozy home to magically go off to...
     
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    Vitriolic, i agree, but barring a relatively catastrophic economic circumstance, americans will continue to focus on their bongs and TV
     
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    Apart from disagreeing on the "incompetent" thing. at least politically (he has shown remarkable resilience despite everything that has been thrown against him), I can agree with this. He has endorsed meddling, sponsoring coups, same old, but so far at least not started any new war. And even seems to be trying to end some. Looking on from outside the US, there have been plenty of worst presidents there, including the Nobel Peace prize winner!
    But the judge on this is still out on Trump until we see how his playing with fire with Iran goes.
     
  15. Patine

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    And whether or not his inexplicable, out-of-the blue tariff wars will come back to bite him in the butt with a big hike in U.S. commodity prices and ruin the "good economy" going into November 2020 that almost all predictions or calculations for or against his re-election are banking on or practically already taken into account to be a given factor.
     
  16. Birdjaguar

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    Trump's war began in Jan 20, 2017 and it was a war against the US government, non white people, and the constitution. It continues today.
     
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  17. Moriarte

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    Wars stopped being major a while ago, and it will remain so for the duration of current status quo. The ultimate deterrent and global interdependence makes sure the conflicts will be minor, on the fringes of zones of commercial and political influence between superpowers.

    Middle east, Pacific, Africa. Enough small wars for another 100 years..

    https://www.cfr.org/interactive/global-conflict-tracker/?category=us
     
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    Well, until a developed or developing power outrights invade a developing power. I still think Central Asia has the potential to be a huge conventional conflict by the mid century. And no, not because of that video game. :p
     
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    The U.S. Constitution has been under relentless attack from within the White House, the Capitol, the Pentagon, Langley, Virginia, and even the Supreme Court Building since the Second World War. Please, don't hyperbolically pretend that's a Trump innovation or instigation. I'm not a fan of Trump at all, but I see no value or good of pretending he starting just a campaign of treason and sedition against the American people and nation, because it greatly distorts what's really happening, has been happening for a while, and any illusions about such a travesty's resolution. Also, saying Trump STARTED an internal war against non-White people is just as disingenuous. I mean, again, I can't stand him - he's an awful President, an awful human being, a blatant liar and bully, and has no sense of morality or proportion, BUT making him a single target to blame, personally, for so many ills and problems in the world today, and honestly believing he is the catalyst and the cause, is highly counter-productive - he is not the cause of these ever-growing and exacerbating issues, problems, and socio-political diseases - he is but a symptom of them. Let's put things in perspective here, and not resort to "video game boss fight" thinking.
     
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    I've watched this thread gather responses, which run from the amusingly paranoid to the utterly ridiculous.
    We can discount any laughable ideas of aliens and sun-tanned reality show Presidents...
    In my (half-educated) opinion, the next conflicts could well arise from either:
    1. Bejing grabs Siberian real-estate to fuel the expansion of the new Empire.
    2. Pipeline mischief in among the Saudi/Iranian/Turkish spheres.
    3. Shooting-then-war incident between China and the USA.
     

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