The "Obama Bear Market"...

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March 6 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama now has the distinction of presiding over his own bear market.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 20 percent since Inauguration Day, the fastest drop under a newly elected president in at least 90 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The gauge has lost 53 percent from its October 2007 record of 14,164.53, slipping 4.1 percent to 6,594.44 yesterday.

More than $1.6 trillion has been erased from U.S. equities since Jan. 20 as mounting bank losses and rising unemployment convinced investors the recession is getting worse. The president is in danger of breaking a pattern in which the Dow rallied 9.8 percent on average in the 12 months after a Democrat captured the White House, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

“People thought there would be a brief Obama rally, and that hasn’t happened,” said Uri Landesman, who oversees about $2.5 billion at ING Groep NV’s asset management unit in New York. “It speaks to the carnage that’s in the economy and the lack of confidence in the measures that have been announced.”

A bear market is defined as a decline of 20 percent or more.

Buying shares “is a potentially good deal” for long-term investors, Obama said March 3. He compared daily fluctuations to a tracking poll in politics and said he wouldn’t adjust his policies just to meet market expectations.

Congress last month enacted Obama’s $787 billion package of tax cuts and spending on roads, bridges and public buildings. His 2010 budget indicated the government’s financial rescue may need another $750 billion after an initial $700 billion.

Getting Cheaper

The Dow average has dropped 31 percent since Obama’s election. The 30-stock gauge trades at 8.04 times annual earnings, the cheapest since 1995 and down from 10.06 times on Inauguration Day.

Citigroup Inc. led the plunge, losing 71 percent. The government proposed taking a 36 percent stake in the New York- based bank, cutting the percentage owned by shareholders. Detroit-based General Motors Corp. tumbled 53 percent after the largest U.S. automaker said it needs more government aid.

“It’s the Obama bear market,” said Dan Veru, who helps oversee $2.8 billion at Palisade Capital Management in Fort Lee, New Jersey. “We don’t know what the rules are in so many different areas the government is touching.”

The Dow average gained 2 percent to 6,726.18 as of 9:49 a.m. in New York today after a government report showed the rate of job losses slowed last month.

Bank Losses

The U.S. economy contracted at a 6.2 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter, the most since 1982, the Commerce Department said last week. Unemployment jumped to 7.6 percent in January, the highest since 1992, as Americans fell behind on their mortgages and banks seized homes at a record pace.

Losses at financial companies worldwide that grew to about $1.2 trillion sent the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to a 38 percent retreat last year, the steepest since 1937.

“Prospects for recovery in the financial sector, despite all the government help, still seem rather remote,” said John Carey, who manages about $8 billion at Pioneer Investment Management in Boston. “We’ve had a weak economy for a couple of years, and we aren’t seeing the stimulus working at this point. That is what weighs on investors’ minds.”

The Dow average took eight months to decline 20 percent following the inauguration of George W. Bush, reaching the level on Sept. 20, 2001, nine days after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

Herbert Hoover

The crash of 1929 occurred seven months into the administration of Herbert Hoover, who presided over an 89 percent plunge in the Dow between September 1929 and July 1932, the steepest retreat ever.

Only twice has the benchmark gauge slipped in the 12 months after the election of a Democratic president since 1900, after Woodrow Wilson’s victory in 1912 and Jimmy Carter’s in 1976.

The Dow entered its most recent bear market on July 2, 2008, when a 167-point decrease gave it a 20 percent loss from its record 14,164.53 on Oct. 9, 2007. Unlike the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index, the Dow’s rally from its November low of 7,552.29 fell short of a 20 percent bull market gain, ending at 19.6 percent.

“Obama should be listening to the stock market more than talking to it,” said Kenneth Fisher, the billionaire chairman of Woodside, California-based Fisher Investments Inc., which oversees $22 billion. “He hasn’t gotten out of the gate well.”

Ouch. Looks like its going to get worse before it gets better. Hang on to your hats people....

Discuss.
 
The market is crashing under Obama?

Where is the change from Bush?
 
If only Palin had been vice-pres, she could have shot the bear.

It doesn't say in that article whether the rate of decline is getting better or worse.

When we had a big crash in the 90s in the UK forcing a devaluing of the pound the Tories spun it as good for foreign investment anyway. That was the beginning of the wilderness years for them.

Sounds like you are happy about the crash anyway Mobby, maybe you can add "I told you so!" to your OP ;)
 
Yeah its dropping spectacularly alright:

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Last 3 months:



Last year:

 
Roosevelt had a bear market too... I'm not sure what the point of trying to pin anything on Obama here is, maybe if it's still dropping next year we can say Obama's economic policies are equally crappy to Bushes but we aren't there yet.

What we can say is that we aren't near a bottom yet, I don't see any meaningful turnaround until Summer at least, but it could well be longer if Obama doesn't take more action than he is. 780B is a pretty paltry bailout, compared to what is needed as the markets are clearly aware of. Hopefully Obama and the Congress won't need to pas a third bailout, but personally I expect they will.
 
What's ironic is that MobBoss is exactly the type in 2001 that blamed the economy on Clinton.
 
Liberals will stop getting their political analysis from The Daily Show when conservatives stop advancing positions so utterly crazy that they can be decisively refuted in a 2 minute comedy sketch.
 
I think this is the most relevant graph of the article:

The Dow entered its most recent bear market on July 2, 2008, when a 167-point decrease gave it a 20 percent loss from its record 14,164.53 on Oct. 9, 2007. Unlike the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index, the Dow’s rally from its November low of 7,552.29 fell short of a 20 percent bull market gain, ending at 19.6 percent.

The bear market was inherited. Granted it is not good that is has still been falling, even after Obama’s inauguration, but is was already in free-fall when he took over. To try to associate this as Obama’s bear market is disingenuous at best.

If only Palin had been vice-pres, she could have shot the bear.

:lol::lol::lol:
 
I don't think the OP is slanted enough, MB. We might think you're a librul or something.
 
OMG OBAMA DID NOT SAVE THE WORLD IN THIRTY DAYS KILL THEM KILL THEM ALL! KILL THEM WITH FIRE!

TOBY KEITH AGREES!

So, MB, did you drink the Obama Kool Aid too, given the expectations of him you're expressing in this thread?

I don't think anyone realistic expects this economy to get "better" for 12-18 months, MINIMUM.
 
Roosevelt was a terrible president!

What's ironic is that MobBoss is exactly the type in 2001 that blamed the economy on Clinton.
It's not ironic, it's consistent. :lol:
 
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