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The opera, the opera, we all love the opera...(Ritual sacrifice question)

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Creation & Customization' started by Civinator, Mar 20, 2006.

  1. Civinator

    Civinator Blue Lion Supporter

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    I never liked the ritual sacrifice option, so I have no experience with it. But now I need something cool for my music tech chooser:

    The idea: With the enslavement function I create a "civ4-like great person", an opera star. There is a new "unbloody" text like "Will we hire this person for the cultural benefit of our nation ? (or something like that). The cultural gain by sacrifice can be doubled with the improvement opera (or something like that).

    The units: A lot of the king units I never did use, make a good figure as actors. And for the modern era only one word: Elvis ! For the hire action: no death animation but an animation like the great persons in civ 4 (fidget).

    I could also need a short good music (la lal la :) ) to replace that "gulp" sound.

    The questions:

    Must the person to "sacrifice" (now to hire for the benefit of the nation) have the worker ability or what other special abilitiy is needed (zero defense) ?

    Does the AI use the sacrifice function ?
     
  2. Supa

    Supa Out of Cheese Error

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    Good idea !

    I don't think so. You can check it in the editor help file.

    Yes.
     
  3. LMR

    LMR Back In Green!

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    I presumed that you can sacrifice any unit that had the "sacrifice" flag checked...

    sorry i couldn't be more help :(
     
  4. Dark Sheer

    Dark Sheer Deity

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    Watch out for the sacrifice function. The AI usually goes sacrifice crazy most of the times. :p

    Thats the only way to explain why a city with no wonder whatsoever can have higher culture on the Top 5 cities list as compared to my culture center that has 7 wonders. ;)
     
  5. Plotinus

    Plotinus Philosopher Administrator

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    No particular abilities are required by the unit being sacrificed. The only stipulation is that it must be a unit acquired through enslavement. You can't sacrifice something you've built yourself.
     
  6. Civinator

    Civinator Blue Lion Supporter

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    Thank you all for your helpful answers.:) :)
     
  7. Yoda Power

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    You can sacrifice any unit with the flag checked, that is not your own nationality, thats how it works.
     
  8. Heretic_Cata

    Heretic_Cata We're gonna live forever

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    Are you sure about that part ? Are you reffering to the normal game or it can be changed in the editor.
    (i wanna sacrifice my own ppl:evil:)
     
  9. Yoda Power

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    I'm 99% sure.
     
  10. The Last Conformist

    The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive

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    I've tried but failed to find a way of allowing the sacrifice of your own workers.
     
  11. Yoda Power

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    It actually makes perfect sense that you can only sacrifice captured/enslaved workers. If you look at how the AI always sacrifices everything they get in their hands they would never have any workers.
     
  12. mrtn

    mrtn Shaven not stirred

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    Can you sacrifice units with defense and offense values? I was under the assumption that you can't, but...
     
  13. The Last Conformist

    The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive

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    I'd imagine you can only do it if they've got a pop cost and thus a nationality, but I haven't tried.
     
  14. Yoda Power

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    You don't need a pop cost in order to have a nationality. You might need it to sacrifice, I haven't checked that.
     
  15. Goldflash

    Goldflash Grumpy Old Man

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    Now, what kind of unit will have the ability to enlasve to an Opera Star? A Talent Scout?
     
  16. Civinator

    Civinator Blue Lion Supporter

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    Please not the Pimp ! :lol:
     
  17. The Last Conformist

    The Last Conformist Irresistibly Attractive

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    I'm voting for Jaimo. :cool:
     
  18. Civinator

    Civinator Blue Lion Supporter

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    A good industrial unit for doing the contract with the star could be the American king unit Abe as "dark lawyer". :D

    For modern times may be Jaimo as "militant fan". :cool:
     
  19. Civinator

    Civinator Blue Lion Supporter

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    How many cultural points do you recieve, if you sacrifice a unit (without an improvement that doubles these points) ?

    In my short test I sacrificed a warrior (1A, 1D) and gained 10 points. Than I "sacrificed" an opera star. I made him 0A, 2D and gained only two points.
    Than I made him 0A, 3D, but I also only received two cultural points.

    Has anybody an idea how the system works that gives you these cultural points?
     
  20. Plotinus

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    It's based on the shield cost to build the unit.
     
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