The Races of Europe

[Godwynn]

I'll admit, I used to think every white person was of the same race. After exploring Wikipedia I've come across I guy by the name of William Ripley who theorized that there are really three distinct races native to Europe:

The Nordic:

Teutonic — members of the northern race were long-skulled (or dolichocephalic), tall in stature, and possessed pale eyes and skin.

The Alpine:

Alpine — members of the central race were round-skulled (or brachycephalic), stocky in stature, and possessed intermediate eye and skin color.

The Mediterranean:

Mediterranean — members of the southern race were long-skulled (or dolichocephalic), short in stature, and possessed dark eyes and skin.


Here is a map showing the distribution between the three, it is fairly large.

Spoiler :

My question to you; are there distinct native races to Europe, or is it just difference in one overall white race?

Please, keep this civil.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

That depends on how one chooses to define a word with no inherent meaning. What separates "ethnic group" from "race"? What the speaker determines, that's what.

 

[Arwon]

Strikes me as a lot of bollocks.

 

[Masquerouge]

Well you can not deny that Scandinavians are more likely to have blue eyes and blond hairs than Spaniards, but I'm not sure that it's because it's a different "race".

 

[luiz]

It is bollocks, which is not to say that there aren't different ethnicities in Europe, which there obviously are, and just goes to show how talking of a "white race" or "black race" is moronic.

Human "races" are more of a continuum than separate groups. If you draw a line from Oslo to Lagos you'll see people getting gradually darker without any abrubt change.

 

[Japanrocks12]

nope, each of those superraces has to have at least 50 ethnic groups each

 

[warpus]

native to Europe

There is no such thing, if you're speaking about races.

Modern humans appeared in Europe 40,000 years ago. Ever since then the place has been the crossroads of mass migrations.

 

[Eran of Arcadia]

Well, if you want to get technical then we aren't really native to anywhere; sure, our hominid ancestors came from east Africa, but there is evidence that the apes from which they evolved developed in Europe, and all the way back, to wherever life first evolved,

 

[Godwynn]

Along that same line.

Are the neanderthals the ancestors to homo sapiens or we did we develop independently?

 

[Babbler]

Sounds like Ripely was just another pseudo-scientist wanting to scientifically justify racism.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Looks like it affects beard growth though.

What about the Celts? Ginger lasses FTW.

 

[scherbchen]

Personally, I find it odd that Americans (and many others for that matter, my countrymen were into that, big time, once) view African Americans, Hispanics (basically meaning to be from Latin America, also applied to somebody from Spain, Greece, Italy etc every once in a while by accident), Native Americans and Caucasians to be different races.

I like to think that we are all the same race, part of the hominoid family. A chimpanzee is of a different race to mine, but still related. Any other human who has developed a language is of my race, humans, homo sapiens sapiens.

I might not know my biology, but I know my common sense. Your hair is different from mine? Your skin looks different? Your jaw-bones are different? Your eyes are different? Does that a race make, does that set us apart? Not in my book.

You might talk about different heritages or cultures, but race? That word is like a red cape to me. Sorry

 

[Japanrocks12]

Sounds like Ripely was just another pseudo-scientist wanting to scientifically justify racism.

well it's like this and pardon me for using the example:

a lot of scientists were examining skull structure in Creole negroes to scientifically justify racism, but does that mean that we should just discredit their findings (however ill-intentioned they may be?)

 

[luiz]

Along that same line.

Are the neanderthals the ancestors to homo sapiens or we did we develop independently?

The neaderthals were our cousins, not parents.

As a side note, the neaderthals were also homo sapiens(Homo sapiens neanderthalensis). We are the homo sapiens sapiens.

 

[skadistic]

There are 4 races. Negroid, Mongoloid, Caucasoid and what ever the Aboriginal in AUS are called.

 

[bigdog5994]

what about the orcs of mordor? dont forget them

 

[Japanrocks12]

There are 4 races. Negroid, Mongoloid, Caucasoid and what ever the Aboriginal in AUS are called.

I think it was Australoid

 

[Communisto]

I like to think that we are all the same race, part of the hominoid family. A chimpanzee is of a different race to mine, but still related. Any other human who has developed a language is of my race, humans, homo sapiens sapiens.

No a chimpanzee would be a different species. I'm pretty sure we're all part of a human species with hundreds of ethnic groups that determine our phyiscal characteristics.

I might not know my biology, but I know my common sense. Your hair is different from mine? Your skin looks different? Your jaw-bones are different? Your eyes are different? Does that a race make, does that set us apart? Not in my book.

Isn't that kind of silly? The way we look obviously does set us apart, only visually though. I sure don't look like my buddy Osman, but why do you ignore that?

You might talk about different heritages or cultures, but race? That word is like a red cape to me. Sorry

What's wrong with substituting the word ethnicity with race? I'm kind of confused on this as I think that the word race brings up alot of red flags in peoples minds but I'm not exactly sure why

 

[Bill3000]

What's wrong with substituting the word ethnicity with race? I'm kind of confused on this as I think that the word race brings up alot of red flags in peoples minds but I'm not exactly sure why

Well, because ethnicity is a self-identification that does not necessarily have to do with birthright. Race appeals to an apparent inherent birthright biological variation that makes one significantly different enough for a classification.

 

[Left]

There are 4 races. Negroid, Mongoloid, Caucasoid and what ever the Aboriginal in AUS are called.

According to CFC the only races are:

1. Whites
2. Muslims
3. Feminists