The Religious Right Movement

Yes, as far as I know Muslims DO in fact hate us because we allow abortions.

Personally? I don't give a crap what religious Muslims think, and I'm willing to take the chance of the Sears Tower getting blown up in a terrorist attack rather than ban abortions completely. If abortion should be banned, religion is NOT a sufficient reason to do it.
 
As for the religious movement idea, I think the environmentalist movement is as much as a "religious" movement as Christianity. Environmentalism is obviously not a religion, but for right wing pundits or commentators, the analogy is often made.
Ooh, hey--this reminded me of one of my favorite sermons, which I haven't done in quite a while.

Let's take environmentalism, since you mentioned it. Why is environmentalism a good thing? Somebody would probably reply, hypothetically, "because it's best to preserve the natural world for our benefit, even if the economy suffers a little as a result". To which one can ask: "well, why is the natural world more important than the economy"? And the environmentalist would answer: "because quality of life is more important than money". To which one can ask: "why is quality of life more important than money"?

Note that the chain of counter-questions just keeps going further and further back. No matter how many answers you spout at me, I can always reply to that answer with another question: WHY? And this is just a single example on one issue.

The truth is, ALL issues are the same way (at least, I've never found a counterexample). The chain of reasons for doing something cannot be infinite; there must be one idea at the very beginning that HAS no logical explanation, it simply Is. In short, any political philosophy--environmentalism, the Drug War, the War on Terror, abortion, gay rights, religious rights, the Right To Life--must always begin with an act of Faith. :jesus:
 
Yes, as far as I know Muslims DO in fact hate us because we allow abortions
I never met a Muslim who hated me because we allow abortions. And I live in the land of whores and abortion and I have met quite a number of Muslims. Every single one of them is more concerned about having to defrost their car in the morning than abortions.

Do you know any Muslims personally who hates you because of abortions?
 
Only one. In total, I've met four people in my life who told me, to my face, that they hated me because I was pro-choice. (I actually flip-flop on the issue fairly often, those four people happened to catch me during those times I was actually pro-choice)

This is the UNITED STATES. This is the wrong place to look for radical Muslims, because almost all Muslims currently living here are MODERATE Muslims, bless 'em all. The few who are radicals are trying to HIDE the fact that they're radicals. And that's how I like it. I hate all religious radicals, regardless of what religion they actually practice.

Maybe you're not reading my posts quite right, Zig. I know there are Muslims out there that hate me for my position on abortion, and I already said I don't care.
 
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