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The road to Moscow - A French Hearts of Iron II AAR

Discussion in 'All Other Games' started by Dell19, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Dell19

    Dell19 Take a break

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    Thats largely similar to my plan. There are a lot of Belgian troops currently moving towards Wolfsburg that would be well placed to then take Magdeburg if we can take Potsdam. Cottbus is the key province to hold though as it splits Germany in two and gives us a good chance of taking the provinces to the north and south.

    Yep thats a risk from the plan although it depends on how many divisions end up retreating from Potsdam etc. We could potentially move more divisions and strike directly towards Berlin although it would take some time as a number of the most logical attack divisions are in the far north (divisions with high org and full strength) so they would need to move round.
     
  2. Jos Ballenbak

    Jos Ballenbak Zombiehunter, duh.....

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    Let us proceed with the plan you think is best Dell19.
     
  3. Patroklos

    Patroklos Deity

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    As a suggestion, it may be a good idea to begin to fortify the line between venice and the alps. It provides a good bottleneck (use mountain divisions to hold the alps themselves) to keep the Soviets from swarming into Italy, and it is only 1-2 provinces wide.
     
  4. Dell19

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    Definately a valid tactic however I'm hopeful that we won't have to fall back that far as it would mean giving up Germany, Austria and Yugoslavia to the Soviets. That would likely cause us some major supply problems if it did happen and none of our armies were surrounded.
     
  5. Dell19

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    With Berlin in our sights the end was clearly approaching for the German nation in its present form. That of course didn’t mean that they had given up and on the 3rd of May they began an attack to reclaim Regensburg. In retaliation we attacked Linz and Strakonice. These attacks had already been planned but their launch date was brought forward.

    Fighting on the Czech border:


    By 8am the outnumbered Allied army in Regensburg had been forced to retreat however the two counter attacks continued to progress well and at 14:00 victory was achieved in Strakonice. The German attacking troops managed to conquer Regensburg and were immediately placed under attack. The 4th of May would start more positively with the attack on Linz proving successful and the Germans were once again forced to retreat from Regensburg. Additionally later in the day an advance tank division declared Strakonice secure.

    Victories on the Czech border:


    Further to the north our army consisting of 12 divisions had reached Cottbus on the 3rd and had managed to repel the Soviet attack on the region. That unfortunately would not be the end of the fighting as on the 4th German troops from Berlin and Potsdam began a separate attack to re capture Cottbus. The German command wanted to re open a supply path to their Czech armies and that could not be allowed so we launched our own attack on Potsdam from Rostock to the north and Leipzig to the south.

    Our attack had the desired effect and the German attack on Cottbus was abandoned. Fortunately the Soviets ignored any information that they received about a potential German attack on Cottbus and so they did not attack from the East. On the 5th our attack on Potsdam proved successful and late in the day the region was captured. We could now virtually see Berlin with our troops yearning for the final attack that would mark the end of the Nazi regime. First though there was the matter of the 9 German divisions in Magdeburg to the west and so they were soon attacked.

    Potsdam captured and Magdeburg under attack:


    At 07:00 on the 6th the divisions in Magdeburg were forced to surrender which allowed our divisions to move east for the eventual attack on Berlin. Magdeburg would be captured at 10:00 on the 7th May after a number of retreating divisions from Potsdam were defeated. Some of the divisional commanders hinted that they had retreated west to be able to surrender rather than pull back to Berlin where they expected to fight in another urban war like the battle for Bratislava which had once again been captured by German troops.


    At 13:00 on the 6th the region of Linz was captured which cut off the retreating German troops in Regensburg. Early on the 7th reinforcements arrived in Strakonice which prompted a new offensive to begin. This time the lightly defended region of Usti was the target. Further to the south east 6 divisions also began to advance into Hollabrunn as the final Austrian province under German control was undefended.

    Moving into Czechoslovakia:


    Two hours after the attack began our troops were victorious meaning that it was no longer necessary for us to reinforce Dresden which had been left undefended when we captured Cottbus several days earlier. Once again Regensburg would prove to be a thorn in our rear. After the German troops were cut off they began a spirited resistance against our weakened attack force which was initially defeated. Fresh divisions from elsewhere were thrown into the battle and this time the German armies had no where to retreat and were forced to surrender.

    Over the next three days there was repeated fighting in Usti as German reinforcements arrived in a haphazard fashion and were promptly defeated each time. That meant that the German defence of Pilsen had been considerably weakened so on the 10th we began our attack with unused troops in Strakonice. Victory was quickly achieved and by 10:00 on the 11th an advance tank division had secured the city whilst Usti was also captured to the north.

    Fighting for Hollabrunn:


    On the same day four German divisions reached Hollabrunn. The allies were quick to react by sending in another 6 divisions and at 21:00 the German army was forced to retreat. Our original attack force reached Hollabrunn soon after and the former nation of Austria was now fully under our control. The German nation was ever contracting and had been successfully split in two. In addition it now looks like we have a decent chance of being able to conquer Berlin before the Soviets can. Their troops still remain east of the Oder river*.

    As a brief summary its worth noting that increasingly in battles we are fielding infantry divisions with 1945 tech levels whilst the Germans have been fighting the war with 1941 infantry which has given us an additional advantage. We’ve also been enjoying pretty much total air control so once Germany had to divert troops to the east it tipped the balance in our favour. Allowing 31 divisions to be encircled whilst leaving troops in Hungary has helped speed up the collapse. Soon we will have to turn our attention to the Soviets who are likely to fight us with quantity rather than quality.

    *Sometimes it is quite difficult to work out which river the HOI map is meant to be showing
     
  6. Serutan

    Serutan Eatibus Anythingibus

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    Excellent! Looks like we shall soon be able to make a strong 3 pronged attack on Berlin. It would be kind of a dicey game to play with the Soviets just across the Oder from Berlin, but it must be tempting to hold off on Berlin to allow the southern units to starve a bit more.
     
  7. Jos Ballenbak

    Jos Ballenbak Zombiehunter, duh.....

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    I demand that Rommel is released as a POW and begins to fight for the Allied cause! :p
     
  8. plarq

    plarq Crazy forever

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    German regaining Moravia and Bratislava? Nice, they'll be supplied by Budapest...
     
  9. Dell19

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    He is a little low skilled to be realistically considered. :mischief:



    I have wondered about potentially adding a couple of German tech teams but I'm not sure which ones. Its probably not feasible to add military leaders though no matter how good they are. We have four Field Marshalls who are skilled 5, 3, 3 and 2. Auchinleck* is the 5 and he is on loan from the UK but oddly in charge of a French army. We do have 9 leaders with a skill level of 5 but they have not been promoted by the AI.

    * probably this guy:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Auchinleck


    Yep although its not likely to last for long and Hungary only control three provinces so they would equally struggle to replenish the Axis divisions.
     
  10. Jos Ballenbak

    Jos Ballenbak Zombiehunter, duh.....

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    BUT AUCHINLEK WAS DEFEATED BY ROMMEL!

    He is a formidable Field Commander, but I will never stand down from my point of view that Rommel was the 2nd World War's best Commander.
    You can just leave the blokes in Maastricht and I will set up a nice welcoming party in the French Army.
     
  11. Dell19

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    Could we beat the Soviets to Berlin? That was the question that was on the lips of the French populace and much of the world. Potsdam had been captured days earlier and now for the first time both the Soviets and the Allies could see Berlin in the distance. For the time being our divisions in Northern Germany would be left to prepare for the coming assault whilst fighting continued over the Czech pocket. At midday on the 12th we began an attack on Tabor with troops from Strakonice and Linz. Our attack force outnumbered the German army 4 to 1 and it was no surprise that our troops were once again victorious with the German troops forced to retreat after only 3 hours.

    Superior Allied forces attacking Tabor:


    Throughout the remainder of the 12th and the morning of the 13th our attack force encountered sporadic resistance as German divisions were ordered to reinforce the region. These attempts to defend the region where quickly squashed and by 14:00 Tabor had been captured. With the extra couple of days rest our armies in the north were deemed ready for a final assault to capture the Berlin pocket. Our armies may well have been able to attack earlier however it was imperative that any attack force would then need to be hold the line against any Soviet attacks coming from the East.

    At 1am the go order was issued for the first attack. Troops mainly from Rostock were given the objective of capturing Stralsund, to the north of Berlin. 41 divisions were committed to this first assault whilst the German defence could only muster 8 weakened divisions. Even so these were the most committed German troops and they knew that our attack was a clear attempt to surround Berlin.

    Fighting north of Berlin:


    The main German resistance in Stralsund crumbled after 13 hours of fighting. The remaining German troops attempted to pull back to Berlin however soon those troops began to hear the distinctive sound of heavy artillery in front of them as well. The attack on Berlin had begun an hour after the victory in Stralsund. Every reasonable strength allied division in Potsdam and Cottbus was sent into the battle. In the earlier battle for Stralsund the German army had been outnumbered 4.5:1, this time they were outnumbered 6:1.

    Fighting continued during the night as each street had to be fought over. At midnight rumours started to spread that Hitler had committed suicide with increasing numbers of German troops ready to surrender rather than continue the fight. As dawn broke the rumours were confirmed and at 6am on the 15th May the main German force surrendered.

    Victory in Berlin!


    Fighting continued in a number of sections of the city as a number of German divisions refused to believe that defeat had occurred or that reinforcements from Stralsund were about to arrive and save the day. At 9:00 Stralsund was declared to be under allied control as the synchronised attack saw 28 divisions arrive in the region. A Soviet attack on the region was quickly pushed back. Finally at 22:00 the last pockets of resistance had ended and the German capital, Berlin had been captured.

    Berlin captured!


    45 divisions secured the city and no Soviet attack was attempted. Somehow the Soviet forces had allowed allied armies to push across Germany and capture Berlin from under their noses. The German nation was now totally under allied control and the majority of their leadership was dead from one cause or another. Some though refused to put down their weapons and thus a new German capital was declared in the Czech city of Prague. Their war would continue for now but clearly there was only going to be one conclusion.
     
  12. Serutan

    Serutan Eatibus Anythingibus

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    Are you planning on reducing the Czech pocket yourself, or letting the Soviets do the dirty work, and take advantage of the river barrier?
     
  13. Dell19

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    Now that you've mentioned the second option that does sound appealing however this was the first part of two updates so I've played slightly further on. At the time the motivation was to grab as much German territory as possible rather than using it as bait. On the plus side if we do push back the Soviets then there are plenty more rivers. Looking at the map, the Vistula would provide a similar opportunity in the north.
     
  14. Serutan

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    True enough, and in the north we're already comfortably behind to Oder to rest and refit, if that is deemed desirable.
     
  15. Maniacal

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    I think we should advance to the banks of the Vistula.
     
  16. Serutan

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    I don't object to that in principle, but I don't think we should attack immediately if the Berlin fighting wore down the troops very much.
     
  17. Dell19

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    There were not a huge number of casualties although the unit organisation fell by half or a third in most units so they won't be ready for a new offensive immediately and also judging by the Soviet counter attack on Stralsund they do have quite a lot of units on their side of the Oder.
     
  18. Rheinmetall

    Rheinmetall Interplanetary Assassin

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    How much larger the soviet military is than yours?
     
  19. Dell19

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    Just the French military on their own, then the Soviets have slightly over double ours. If you include our allies and only look at the Western front then the Allied forces actually have a couple more divisions.
     
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    Whilst fighting over the Berlin pocket continued there was no rest for the troops to the south around the Czech pocked. On midday on the 14th May Regensburg was finally recaptured with the remaining troops there forced to surrender as they were now well away from the German front line. An hour after the victory in Berlin on the 15th, an attack began on Kutna Hora to the south of Prague.

    Attacking Kutna Hora:


    By midnight the German army was once again retreating whilst allied armies in Usti and Cottbus were attempting to take Liberic. The Soviets were also trying to grab the same region as they wished to add the Czech capital to add to their positions so the German troops were quick to pull back. The 17th saw a number of victories in Liberic and Kutna Hora as numerous German divisions attempted to retreat from one region to the other or arrived from Prague.

    On the 18th a Soviet army consisting of 11 divisions claimed control of Liberic however that did not show the full story as our advancing troops had already engaged their army in the western section of the region.

    Soviet forces engaged north of Prague:


    Our forces had numerical and technological superiority however the quantity of enemy divisions would still prove difficult to dislodge particularly with reinforcements arriving. Both air forces also engaged each other and the enemy troops as fighting intensified. Kutna Hora had briefly been captured by an allied tank division so keeping Liberic was the Soviet’s best chance of being able to push further west and capture Prague. Fortunately by midday on the 19th our army had been victorious and the Soviets were forced to pull back.

    15 allied divisions secured Liberic and promptly defeated the Soviet attack whilst on the 20th 12 allied divisions reached Kutna Hora and likewise repelled the Soviet counter attack. Prague was now surrounded by allied troops and midday on the 21st the final German bastion was placed under attack. Their troops were a strange mixture of Germans who wished to fight to the very end and then those German and Czech troops that were simply in the wrong place and still alive.

    The assault on Prague:


    The German situation was hopeless and 16 hours after the attack began the bulk of the German army had completely surrendered and Prague was under our control. Germany after 4 years of fighting had finally been defeated and at 5am the surviving leadership was forced to sign their nation’s surrender. With their surrender all of Germany was placed under allied control whilst the Soviets were quick to announce ownership of their conquests to the East.

    Germany no more:


    With the annexation Germany there is only one country left flying the Axis flag and that is Hungary. They are in a precarious situation already down to three provinces and surrounded by masses of Allied and Soviet troops. It gets even worse for them as a considerable number of German divisions were supporting the Hungarian defence however those diversions have now mostly dispersed after the German surrender so it is likely to be a matter of days rather than weeks until Hungary is also annexed.
    Budapest is closer to the Soviet armies so this time they may get to officially annex Hungary.

    As the screenshot above shows we do have rather a large number of divisions under our control and on the 19th we finally completed our nuclear reactor so we can start building motorised infantry and tanks once again. Also on the 8th we researched Advanced logistic organisation and began researching Branch interoperability. The first tech has helped to improve our supply situation which has been running a negative in recent months whilst Branch interoperability will improve the combat efficiency of our existing troops.

    The victors:


    The image above is one from earlier in the war when the Soviets declared war. The Orange line is the new front line so in terms of land mass both sides gained a similar amount when Finland is included as a Soviet puppet although we have gained all of the German industry which will be invaluable in the war against the Soviet Union. The blue line was the original border between the UK and the Soviet Union so the UK has been slightly pushed back in Bulgaria. We may need to help them more in the future rather than allowing the Soviets to potentially break through and attack Yugoslavia from the south.

    Due to how the provinces are distributed, if we capture the two Hungarian provinces on our side then our troop concentration per province would actually increase whilst in the Czech region and Berlin we have our biggest concentrations of troops ready for a push east. If the UK can hold Greece then our initial tactic is likely to be to try and push into Poland and then divert some of that force southwards into eastern Romania and then to hopefully encircle the Soviet armies in Slovakia and Hungary. This may not ultimately be possible however it is clear that we will have to encircle the Soviets somewhere as we will not be able to continuously push them back – assuming of course that we can from the start.
     

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