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The Road to War - Historic Edition 2.0

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Road to War' started by kiwitt, Sep 16, 2011.

  1. kiwitt

    kiwitt Road to War Modder

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    Introduction

    Some of you may know I have developed a comprehensive Road to War - Historical, which was developed from my earlier Mini-Mod. After struggling with development of a Service Pack 1 for it, I have come to the conclusion that it is more of a Feature Pack and may explain the number of CTDs I have been experiencing and will not be releasing it. See the next post for development details.

    For this reason I am going to embark on my biggest project to date. The Road to War - Historic Edition 2.0. This will start from the great foundation that is Road to War - Ultimate Edition 1.1. This will undoubtedly take a couple of years to refine and get right. One of the main reasons I decided to embark on this "Labour of Love" is 1) I love WWII History and 2) I love Civ 4 and 3) I do not like Civ 5. (which I was originally going to develop my next version for)

    Credits for version 2.0 - for previous credits see 1.04 thread
    Naval and Air Research: FNP
     
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    kiwitt Road to War Modder

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    Development Notes

    After much consideration and evaluation of other mods like BUG, RevDCM, etc, I have decided to use the Ultimate Edition 1.1 - 1936 Global Scenario - and framework for development of Road to War - Historic Edition 2.0. My Motto will be "Keep it Simple Stupid" or "A designer knows when he has achieved perfection, not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away", so any additions have to be meaningful and not just adding flavour, for the sake of it.

    I am aiming for an Alpha release (2.00) in December 2012, which will include all the new units. The Beta release (2.01) in March 2013 will then bring in most of the RTW events and Preview release (2.03) will have my 1.04 tweaks in September 2013. The Final release (2.04) will have been debugged in End 2013.

    While I will be adding many unique units to this game, the base specs set by BTS will remain. e.g. Standard infantry will be 20, Battleships 40, etc. This is because I believe these strengths were developed for balance. However, my additional classes, will vary these significantly, so that a WWII-era battleship will very likely be near 100 or more strength and also have AA capabilities like destroyers.

    Keep checking the following section for progress

    Current Development Based on Ultimate Edition 1.1
    Spoiler :
    SP1 is now discountinued, therefore I am going to embark on my biggest project to date. The Road to War - Historic Edition 2.0. This will start from the great foundation that is The Ultimate Edition 1.1 for 3.19. This will undoubtedly take a couple of years to refine and get right. One of the main reasons I decided to embark on this "Labour of Love" is 1) I love WWII History and 2) I love Civ 4 and 3) I do not like Civ 5.

    The Original Development Strategy
    I am going to take this in stages. The key part of this strategy that the foundation will be will utilised for ALL scenarios. The main sections are as follows; Global Settings, Nations, Units.

    Global Settings
    In this section there will be Python Code, Global, Terrain, Buildings, Technology, Promotions, Basic, Game and Global settings, Civics

    Nations
    In this section will be where I will refine the nations and include duplicates for nations that exist in multiple scenarios. e.g. there will be a USA_E, USA_P and USA_G nation, and a GER_E and GER_G nation. The parameters of these nations will essentially be identical, however, they will have slightly different unique units, to allow for the differing scales. I will also be working on the maps in this phase of the development, to ensure each map gives an accurate reflection and that the 1936 map looks similar to the 1939 map etc. My focus therefore will be on the 1936 maps and the later maps will be based from them.

    Units
    There will be unique units for each of the scenarios to reflect the range (which will affect Naval and Air units predominately), however, all other parameters will be the same. I will also be reducing the number of unique units that minor nations have. The major nations are as follows; Germany, Italy, Japan, China, France, USA, Britain, USSR.

    Milestones Completed

    Global Settings
    1) Tidied up the text files so I can edit them better later
    2) Added in the python changes from Historical
    • Bitter Winter Only occurs in specific years
    • Additional lives added
    • Unit Capture added
    3) Promotions for Python

    Future Milestones

    No Food, i.e. city growth
    • Global Settings
    • Terrains
    • Buildings
    • Specialists
    NOTE: Many of these features maybe used in the actual Mod later in its development
    More frequent updates will be posted to The Road to War Facebook page
     
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    kiwitt Road to War Modder

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    Notes 1

    Previous Development based on GEM 6.x
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    ChangeLog 2.00.0x
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    2.00.04 - Initial National Technologies
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    • Germany
    • Russia
    • Britain
    • ...
    2.00.03 - Unique units
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    Currently compiling all the unique graphics for all the various natiosn so that the actual list below may vary slightly as some have their own graphics.
    • - Generic
      (Turkey, Egypt, Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Himalaya, Greece, Yugoslavia, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Baltic States, Switzerland, Ireland, Spain, Portugal, Minor States)
    • 0 - Germany
      (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria)
    • 4 - Italy
    • 5 - Japan
      (Manchuria, Thailand)
    • 14 - Russia
      (Mongolia, Nat.China, Com.China)
    • 18 - France
      (Belgium, Netherlands)
    • 32 - Britain
      (South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Canada)
    • 37 - America
      (Philippines, Cent.America, Carribean, Mexico, Venezuela, Columbia, Peru, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina, Chile)
    2.00.02 - Additional Classes to be added - in progress
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    New Ship Classes
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    • Destroyer
    • Coastal Cruiser
    • Light Cruiser - new class created
    • Standard Cruiser
    • Heavy Cruiser / Pocket Battleship
    • Battleship
    • WWI Battleship
    • Battle Cruiser /
    • WWII Battleship (Bismark Class)
    • Escort Carrier (CVE) (1 sqn)
    • Light Carrier (CVL) (2 sqns)
    • Fleet Carrier (CV)(4 sqns)
    • Super Carrier (NCV) (5 sqns)
    • Transport (4 Units)
    • Heavy Transport
    • Submarine
    • Attack Submarine
    • Missile Cruiser
    • Nuclear Submarine
    • Missile Submarine
    Infantry Classes
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    • Infantry 0 - 1st National Unit - Germany/Russia (divisions), Major Nations (brigades), Minor Nations (battalions)
    • Infantry 1 - 2nd National Unit - Germany/Russia (corps) Major Nations (divisions), Minor Nations (regiments)
    • Infantry 2 - 3rd National Unit - Germany/Russia (armies) Major Nations (corps), Minor Nations (brigades)
    • Infantry 3 - 4th National Unit - Germany (army groups) Russia (army fronts) Major Nations (armies), Minor Nations (divisions)
    Mobile Classes
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    • Cavalry - e.g. Cossacks
    • Tank 0 - Germany/Russia (tank divisions), UK/US (tank regiments/battalions), Other Nations (tank companies)
    • Tank 1 - Germany/Russia (tank corps), UK/US (Allied tank divisons), Other Nations (tank regiments)
    • Tank 2 - Germany/Russia (tank armies), UK/US (Allied Corps), other Nations (tank brigades)
    • Tank 3 - Germany (Regional HQs), Russia (shock armies), UK/US (Allied Army Groups), Other Nations (tank divisions),
    New Defence Line Classes
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    • Bunker
    • Artillery
    • Mobile Artillery
    • Mobile AA
    New Fighter Classes
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    • Fighter 1 - Pre WW2 Fighter
    • Fighter 2 - 1st Gen WW2 Fighter
    • Fighter 3 - 2nd Gen WW2 Fighter (under 1,000 kg bomb load)
    • Fighter 4 - Early Jet Fighter (~ 2,000 kg bomb load)
    • Fighter 5 - Jet Fighter (~ 2,000 kg bomb load)
    New Bomber Classes
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    • Bomber 1 - Light Bomber (under 1,000 kg)
    • Bomber 2 - Medium Bomber (~ 2,000 kg load)
    • Bomber 3 - Dive Bomber
    • Bomber 4 - Heavy Bomber (~ 10,000 kg load)
    • Bomber 5 - Strategic Bomber
    Completed Milestones
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    2.00.01 - Old GEM units being removed as obsolete - completed
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    • CIV4Unitinfos.xml - completed
    • CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml - completed
    • CIV4UnitArtStyleTypeInfos.xml - moved from BTS core and updated
    • CIV4ArtDefines_Unit.xml - completed
     
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    Notes 2
     
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    It will be interesting to see how this turns out; good luck, always enjoyed WWII scenarios.
     
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    kiwitt Road to War Modder

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    I'm thankful I have done most of the research already and it may actually finish faster than I expected. Plus I now do have more time on my hands ... 'retired now' ... also your maps will be very useful.
     
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    I have switched to the dark side [imac] so I'm out of any beta test but will be glad to help you out with Naval unit research.
     
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    Thanks FNP. A small task

    Would you be able to list all Coastal Defence Ships, Cruisers, Battleships and Carriers that were actually in existence @ Jan 1936, Jan 1939 and Jan 1941 and their approximate location (i.e. area of operation)

    In addition, would you be interested to determine the relative firepower for each. Base Cruisers are 40, Battleships are 80 and then use the Combat Promotion (10% for combat 1-4 and 25% for combat 5). Bonuses to increase these values. Speed I would use Drill 1-4 to determine speed and Flanking 1,2 and tactics its manoeuvrability. Interception 1 and 2 to determine its AA armament.

    Cruisers and Battleships launched after 1936 will be classed as unique ships for the various nations and will have a different starting value, but will compare to the earlier ships and the promotion bonuses would be included in their starting values.

    For Carriers their base value is 25 and the can carry 2 sqns. They can still have the speed and manoeuvrability promotions. Unique Carriers can carry more and will have their starting values based on the if they had the promotions.
     
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    time to get .xml files working on a mac! Need an email address for you to avoid spamming the thread.
    see what I can do.
     
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    Don't worry about the thread, Its very much for development.

    No need for XML. Just go here for effects of Promotions. Range is how far they can travel at normal cruising speed. You can use Range promotions for additional range from their base. Essentially Cruisers are 2,000 km and each range promotion adds another 2,000. The actual distance in tiles travelled will vary per map, based on scale.

    You may consider using barrage for those with more than the average number of guns. And sentry promotion is the ship carried a plane.
     
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    I'll like to see how this ends up. I don't have time to be of much help, but I loved Dale's mod and a perfecting of it would be great! Good luck, you're gonna need it.
     
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    Feel free to download my 1.04 version, which is the find of theme I will basing it on.
     
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    Some ideas to be incorporated
    Transports should require DDs as escort and will have minimal defence, i.e. you need to protect them with fleet assets.

    Yes ... these should have a bonus versus SS

    I am thinking of introducing a new class of units for each theater. EG. P51_EU, P51_PAC and simply P51 for the global map.

    Bigger picture stuff:

    I have given this a late tech, although I have given this in advance to the US

    SODs are rarer, due to the changes I made to the units. A-Bombs even more so, by making them more expensive.

    agreed

    Pillage may be a bit hard to do, so I will simply make them rarer.

    Good idea.
     
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