The 'Teers 02: The Man in the Iron Mask

[pholkhero]

So begins the reign of the mighty Pretender King

Turn 0 (4000 BC)
Paris founded

Paris begins: Warrior
Research begun: Fishing
User comment: going to head for fishing>ah, and warrior>??>worker

Turn 1 (3970 BC)

Turn 2 (3940 BC)

Turn 3 (3910 BC)
Tribal village results: a little gold

Turn 4 (3880 BC)

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Turn 6 (3820 BC)

Turn 7 (3790 BC)
Paris's borders expand

Turn 8 (3760 BC)
Tribal village results: map

Turn 9 (3730 BC)
Research begun: Animal Husbandry

Turn 10 (3700 BC)
Paris finishes: Warrior
Contact made: American Empire

Turn 11 (3670 BC)
Paris begins: Barracks
Contact made: Roman Empire

Turn 12 (3640 BC)

Turn 13 (3610 BC)

Turn 14 (3580 BC)

Turn 15 (3550 BC)

Turn 16 (3520 BC)
Paris grows: 2

Turn 17 (3490 BC)
Paris begins: Settler
Paris begins: Worker

Turn 18 (3460 BC)

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Turn 27 (3190 BC)
Research begun: Hunting
Research begun: Mysticism
Research begun: Hunting
Contact made: Spanish Empire

Turn 28 (3160 BC)

Turn 29 (3130 BC)

Turn 30 (3100 BC)

 

[pholkhero]

I hit Post Reply too early so I lost a few pics here. Here is the most important: the overview shot and the save ~

I tried for Fishing>Husbandry>Hunting and Warrior>Barracks for about 6 turns>Worker at pop2. Hunting comes due in about 5-6 turns, the worker comes in the next turn. Perhaps we should start up to Priesthood after hunting...that was my myst-hunting dilemna.

 

[SpriteSODA]

we need to get bronze working before finishing the oracle so we could take MC for free.

 

[JerichoHill]

Geebus, Mao has 3 sea resources?!

2nd city should be near the gem resources, hook them up for financial strength. I'd like to grab the horses with the third city.

 

[Lobsterboy]

2nd city should be near the gem resources, hook them up for financial strength. I'd like to grab the horses with the third city.

Sounds good to me. I'll settle Orleans on the neck of land between the two lakes. The city won't grow very quickly, however, until we get Iron Working. Hmm... Perhaps we would be better off founding Orleans near the Horses, and take in the Gems with our third city? (Anybody care to draw a dot map?)

Decisions, decisions...

Oh yeah. I downloaded the save, and will play tonight. Fifteen turns or twenty?

 

[frankcor]

A true wimp would chose gems over horses for city 2.

 

[pholkhero]

The lines indicate areas where we should want to settle in the future, depending on the rest of the surrounding terrain

 

[JerichoHill]

Due to the variant, I recommend we expand aggressively towards our neighbors. We're not going to be able to get land peacefully otherwise.

 

[pholkhero]

1. Pholkhero >> just played
2. Lobsterboy >> UP NOW, 20t
3. JerichoHill >> on deck, 20t
4. SpriteSODA >> 15t
5. Frankcor >> 15t

100 turns = first Roster Rotation

then, 10t thereafter

 

[pholkhero]

Due to the variant, I recommend we expand aggressively towards our neighbors. We're not going to be able to get land peacefully otherwise.

I agree. Nobody will be north of us, so we can wait on that, but i think goig towards China and America w/cities 2 and 3 are a good bet...

Green may be crummy, but it's on a hill, and there's *probably* another resource nearby.

Red, true, will not grow fast, but fast enough w/the pigs to whip some things there that we'll need.

Blue is good, but needs a border pop to get the rescources. however, farm a grassland and work the forest adn we'll have enough for the whip.

Yellow, good, but not directly towards any of our neighbors...though i'm sure someone's directly east of us.

It didn't mention this in the report. (Sorry, I was in a hurry before work.) We also met JC, Washing and Izzy. She founded Buddhism. I, of course, made peace with them.

 

[pholkhero]

we need to get bronze working before finishing the oracle so we could take MC for free.

I'd like to set it up so that we can take either Monarchy, Feudalism or Machinery. We can grab MC, and then chose either Monarchy or Machinery to research and grab the otehr tech w/the Oracle. If we go mining>BW>myst>med>priest>etc., that may take too long to get to Priest. Perhaps, go to Priest, then mining, BW, MC...cutting it close, but we ARE surrounded by lake tiles and they can be worked for the 2 commerce when we need it.

 

[JerichoHill]

Word.

What are thoughts on an overall set-up strategy?

I've got the following down

1) Expand towards Chinese and Americans with cities 2 and 3. Backfill cities 4 and 5 to nab important resources.

2) Get a galley up and explore the world...looks like there is alot to gain from coastal commerce.

3) Maintain a sizeable enough military to prevent too many demands

 

[pholkhero]

1) Expand towards Chinese and Americans with cities 2 and 3. Backfill cities 4 and 5 to nab important resources.

2) Get a galley up and explore the world...looks like there is alot to gain from coastal commerce.

3) Maintain a sizeable enough military to prevent too many demands

1) and 3) i like. 3) will be good so that we don't have a lag from our declaration of war at first musketeer, and the assembly of an army.

Now, 2) -- we are on a lakes map so we'll have to wait on that one a bit

 

[Lobsterboy]

Word.

What are thoughts on an overall set-up strategy?

I've got the following down

1) Expand towards Chinese and Americans with cities 2 and 3. Backfill cities 4 and 5 to nab important resources.

2) Get a galley up and explore the world...looks like there is alot to gain from coastal commerce.

3) Maintain a sizeable enough military to prevent too many demands

One of the problems I have with point 1) is that we have to accept Open Borders with any civ that asks. Therefore, we most likely won't be able to prevent the expansion of the AIs by controlling key choke points. For this reason, I think we should plant our cities to grab the most valuable resources and deny them to the AI. For this reason I think we should grab the Gems and Banana now rather than later, and to hell with the initial poor city growth. Originally, I was going to put the city on that neck of land between the two lakes, but now I'm thinking South of the of the western lake might be better (maybe there are additional resources to the West.)

 

[pholkhero]

One of the problems I have with point 1) is that we have to accept Open Borders with any civ that asks. Therefore, we most likely won't be able to prevent the expansion of the AIs by controlling key choke points

I like expanding toward close neighbors b/c then it's your city near their capital rather than vice versa

edit: added quote, for post clarity. I think we should settle near them, regardless of OB or not.

 

[JerichoHill]

The gem city is till on the way towards them

 

[Lobsterboy]

The gem city is till on the way towards them

Well, sure! But when you talk about expanding aggressively towards our neighbors, I thought you meant dropping the second and third cities on their doorsteps.

 

[Lobsterboy]

Nothing exciting to report.

Turn 30 (3100 BC)
Contact made: Indian Empire
Warrior and Scout show up from the East

Turn 31 (3070 BC)

Turn 32 (3040 BC)

Turn 33 (3010 BC)

Turn 34 (2980 BC)
Paris finishes: Worker

Turn 35 (2950 BC)
Research begun: Mysticism
Paris begins: Warrior

Turn 36 (2920 BC)

Turn 37 (2890 BC)

Turn 38 (2860 BC)
Hinduism FIDL - Gee, I wonde who that could be?
Warrior defeats (2.00/2): Barbarian Lion

Turn 39 (2830 BC)
Yes, that's right. Gandhi founded Hinduism. Surprise, surprise!

Turn 40 (2800 BC)

Turn 41 (2770 BC)

Turn 42 (2740 BC)
User comment: Find Spanish lands to the East
Paris finishes: Warrior

Turn 43 (2710 BC)
Paris begins: Settler

Turn 44 (2680 BC)
Warrior defeats (1.68/2): Barbarian Lion
Warrior promoted: Combat II

Turn 45 (2650 BC)
Research begun: Meditation

Turn 46 (2620 BC)

Turn 47 (2590 BC)

Turn 48 (2560 BC)

Turn 49 (2530 BC)
Warrior defeats (1.44/2): Barbarian Lion
Warrior defeats (0.54/2): Barbarian Lion
Warrior scouting 2nd city location near Gems survives a Lion double-team.
Warrior promoted: Combat II

Turn 50 (2500 BC)
Julius discovers BW - adopts Slavery

Meditation in 8; Settler in 11

Explored a little more to the East:





Take it away Jericho!

 

[SpriteSODA]

I dont agree with choking the AI because they will open borders and settle near our core cities and thats not good.

 

[SpriteSODA]

A dot map:

Red and Yellow - Red is better, but maybe we want to prevent us to build all cities in a line, so Yellow is an option.