the two most competitive economies in the world

Iceland at number 8 :eek:
I didn't even know anyone lived there.
Good to see Australia at number 10 :D ; behind Iceland :crazyeye:
 
The whole concept of 'growth competitiveness' sounds mystical to me. it does not neccesarily mean real growth nor does it mean real level of competitiveness. It means how competitive a nation is at growing which is very relative. No doubt for countries like Sweden, Finland, Australia and the U.S. there is plenty of room for growth. Lebensraum. However that is certainly not true for Taiwan, Denmark and Singapore.

For instance in Denmark the polution from pig production corresponds to the level of having 80 million people living here. The results are clear. The price of clean water has sky-rocketed. This year the price rose 200%. Obviosly this was not factored into this growth competiveness indicator. There might also be serious growth inhibition factors working in some of the other countries which I am not aware of then.
 
Originally posted by Stapel
What is GROWTH COMPETITIVENESS ?

It is how competitive a nation is at growing the economy I think.

Room left for horisontal enlargement + room left for vertical enlargement which when multiplied gives room left for population growth. This in turn define the outer limits for the increase in consumption and hence the limit for what is needed for further investment. The higher the level of investment is compared to the total amount of room left to expand in the better competitiveness.
 
woohoo! top 10!

hmm. surprising, i don't see new zealand on there. there must have been an oversight somewhere....

no?

well, it appears we have beaten them at something YET AGAIN!

....
ok, i'm done.
 
It is not only the growth competitveness, Finnish businesses are also very competitive. The "See Also" article lists the benefits of Finland, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2329165.stm

As it is stated in that article, the corporate and capital gains tax in Finland is reasonable, but Finland suffers from about the same problem as Germany, high unemployment, high income taxes, and high unemployment benefits. Problems that reinforce each other.
 
I still don't understand how this "growth competitveness is relevant"?:confused:
 
Of course these sorts of rankings are always a bit questionable as they rely completely on whatever you choose to measure and how to factor it into the final number, but it seems like this comes from people who at least should know what they're talking about. The blind ideological bias of the source, if it exists, should also go against Finland... actually, some of this ideological bias regarding "government size" was corrected in the newest version of the ranking list.

To me, the fact that we have so many Nordic nations up there is, once again, proof that we've got it right. Our way of life might not be perfect, and it should perhaps be adjusted from time to time, but the core ideas are correct. We do not waste human resources. Our ability to keep people in touch with society is very good, although we have certainly had problems after the 1990s recession... of course a country the size of the USA can dump countless millions of souls overboard as useless if neccessary and still be economically strong through brute force... we can't afford that kind of a strategy.

Of course it has to be realized that the proper functioning of the Nordic system requires two things... cohesion of the people, as in, a feeling that the guy next door is your human compatriot and not just something you can kill for food if it doesn't fight back hard enough, and firm ethics on every level of society... I find it no surprise at all that Finland regularly ranks also as the least corrupt nation in the world, or is at least second -- in these cases Sweden typically is in number one.

Interestingly, take one of these base pillars away, and the other falters. Take away cohesion, we no longer share the ethics or have motivation for them... take away ethics and you certainly will lose the cohesion.

It is indeed reassuring to be told that from an outside observer's vantage point, a more humane approach to life at large is competitively successful. It results in a stable society where agreements are honored, people keep the peace and are "well enough" to function meaningfully in their lives, thus contributing to overall prosperity and creating a safe climate... finally, it is noteworthy that one of Finland's main draws is its educated population.

Then again, if losing a few places on the competitiveness chart meant tearing apart what makes Nordic societies special... my choice would be easy.
 
Originally posted by bobgote
woohoo! top 10!

hmm. surprising, i don't see new zealand on there. there must have been an oversight somewhere....

no?

well, it appears we have beaten them at something YET AGAIN!

....
ok, i'm done.

hmmm... your not a rugby fan then? :D
 
Is this thread sponsored by Finnish foreign ministery...

Sounds like selling your country to world.

Shouldn't be surprised, finns are like that.
 
Iceland...what products does it sell? Lava? Dust? Ice? Bjork? Red Storm Rising fan walks?
 
Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Iceland...what products does it sell? Lava? Dust? Ice? Bjork? Red Storm Rising fan walks?

FISH! Tons and tons of fish. :D

I've also heard that they are pretty strong on aluminium export.
 
Ah. Of course. The fish they steal from the Queen's fishermen. To war!
 
Originally posted by Simon Darkshade
Iceland...what products does it sell? Lava? Dust? Ice? Bjork? Red Storm Rising fan walks?

Iceland are an exporter of energy. They use their cheap geothermal and hydroelectric energy to produce hydrogen fuel cells.

In the centuries to come, after fossil fuels have run down, they may well become one of the worlds most powerful economies.
 
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