The UK needs stricter knife control....

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Knifes in the UK are severely controlled and regulated. One is fundamentally not entitled to own a knife beyond a rather small size, one has to qualify for doing so. Having knifes is not a right.

You can own a knife longer than 76mm long and you can carry it in public in the UK.

But you have to have a good reason.

I have carried a knife on the street whilst working but would put it in the bottom of my bag if I was taking it home. If I wanted to go to the pub on the way home I did not take the knife home.

You can own flick knives but you cannot sell or give them away etc or take them out of the house. So if you move house you would have to destroy the knife.
 
God bless America. I don't even have to leave my home and I can have a quality knife in less than 24 hours delivered right to my door. I don't have to justify it, excuse it, or give a reason as to why I might want it. I just order it.

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Same here - there's nothing wrong with owning it; there is however a problem with carrying it with you to the shops. A police officer is entitled to stop you and ask your reason for carrying it with you - I own quite a few bushcraft knives for when I go walking or canoeing; it's fine to have one in my belt while doing that, because I have good cause to do so.
 
The point is that the body count would be 0 if knives were strictly restricted... etc. etc.

Wow! That's very much like what American gun control advocates say, except it's in the from of a lame strawman. And it's about knives.
 
You just have to show ID to the delivery man and sign for it? That's it?

Worse than I thought...

No you have to buy it with a credit card to prove you are over 18.

You then have to sign for it when it arrives to show that the signature matches the card or if you were out the person who signs for it would have to show some proof of age if they looked under 18.

So they have a record who took possession of the knife.

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From Gloucestershire Trading Standards


Spoiler :
Online sales of age restricted products


It is the responsibility of retailers to ensure they do not sell age restricted products to people under the legal age of purchase, and this presents particular issues when selling via the internet. Retailers must have effective systems in place for preventing sales to underage prospective customers.

This guide is applies to all products that have age restrictions on sales - for example, alcohol, spray paints, fireworks, solvents, video recordings and games, and cigarettes.

In the guide
Duty of retailers
Checks unlikely to satisfy 'due diligence'
Age verification checks
Further information

Duty of retailers
It is the responsibility of retailers to ensure they do not sell age restricted products online to people under the legal age of purchase. This means setting up effective systems capable of verifying the age of potential purchasers to ensure they are above the minimum legal age to purchase a product. When making an assessment of such systems, account should be taken of legal requirements to take all reasonable precautions and to exercise all due diligence to avoid committing an offence. These legal requirements are a retailer's defence in consumer protection legislation.

Such systems should be regularly monitored and updated as necessary, to identify and rectify any problems or weaknesses in the system or to keep pace with advances in available technology.

There is no definitive answer as to what constitutes taking all reasonable precautions or exercising all due diligence. However, past court case decisions in relation to other areas of consumer protection have established that if positive steps or precautions are not taken, a defence is likely to fail.

Risk analysis, including investigation of the options available to overcome risks, is required to identify and investigate what precautions and steps could be taken.

Checks unlikely to satisfy 'due diligence'
Retailers should take positive steps to verify the age of the purchaser when selling age restricted products. The following are examples that are unlikely to be enough to satisfy the requirements of taking all reasonable precautions and exercising all due diligence:

relying on the purchaser confirming they are over the minimum age
asking the purchaser simply to provide a date of birth
using tick boxes to ask purchasers to confirm they are over the minimum age
using a general disclaimer such as 'anyone ordering this product from our website will be deemed to be at least 18'
using an 'accept' statement for the purchaser to confirm they have read the terms and conditions and they are over the minimum age
using e-payment services such as PayPal, Nochex or Worldpay. These services may require a customer to be over 18, but they may not verify a user's age
Young people will seek to challenge conventions and test boundaries. In the case of online sales, young people could potentially evade the stringent proof of age checks that are required on the high street unless retailers make positive checks.

Age verification checks
The following is a guide to possible steps and precautions that retailers could adopt to assist with age verification. However, it should be noted that these may not be suitable for some situations and retailers will need to assess what steps are suitable and appropriate to their individual circumstances. Retailers may be able to develop other methods of age verification.

Many websites now require purchasers to register details or to set up accounts for future purchases, which means that age verification checks may only be required for the initial set-up of accounts or on the first purchase from the website.

PAYMENT BY CREDIT CARD
At the moment, credit cards are generally available only to those over 18. Payment or verification of the purchaser using a credit (as opposed to a debit) card could serve to verify that the principal cardholder for the credit card is over 18.

PAYMENT BY PREPAID/DEBIT CARD
A retailer could check which prepaid/debit cards are coded to differentiate between adult purchasers and underage purchasers and accept them as a method of payment.

AGE VERIFICATION ON DELIVERY
Retailers could use age verification checks at the point of delivery by ensuring that delivery drivers request a valid proof of age to confirm that the purchaser is over the minimum age to buy the product in question. It should be noted that third party couriers may not accept responsibility for age verification.

ONLINE AGE VERIFICATION CHECKS
Online age verification software is available that makes use of various sources of information in order to check a purchaser's age. These checks include using the electoral register and/or credit reference agencies. There are also businesses that offer online access to electoral register information, which could be used to verify a purchaser's age.

FOLLOW UP OFFLINE CHECKS
In some circumstances, it may not be possible to verify a potential purchaser's age to conclude an online order. It is suggested, therefore, that further checks could be carried out, such as requiring the customer to provide a valid/acceptable proof of age which can then be appropriately checked.

COLLECT IN-STORE
For some retailers, who also have a high street presence, purchasers could view and reserve products online and then collect in-store, where age verification could be carried out by members of staff as with a normal face-to-face transaction.

Further information
As it is the responsibility of the retailer to ensure that products are only sold to purchasers who are old enough to buy them, if there is any doubt, the transaction should not proceed.

The above guidance is applicable to all products that are subject to age restricted sales. These include alcohol, spray paints, fireworks, solvents, video recordings and games, and cigarettes. See our leaflet 'Age restricted products' for further information.

For more general information about online sales, please see our leaflet 'Selling at a distance (via the internet, telephone, post etc)'.

Please note
This leaflet is not an authoritative interpretation of the law and is intended only for guidance. Any legislation referred to, while still current, may have been amended from the form in which it was originally enacted. Please contact us for further information.

Relevant legislation
Children and Young Persons Act 1933
Intoxicating Substances (Supply) Act 1985
Criminal Justice Act 1988
Children and Young Persons (Protection From Tobacco) Act 1991
National Lottery etc. Act 1993
National Lottery Regulations 1994
Offensive Weapons Act 1996
Cigarette Lighter Refill (Safety) Regulations 1999
Licensing Act 2003
Anti-social Behaviour Act 2003
Fireworks Regulations 2004
Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006
Pyrotechnic Articles (Safety) Regulations 2010
Video Recordings Act 2010

Last reviewed/updated: December 2012
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/cgi-bin/glos/bus1item.cgi?file=*BADV674-1001.txt
 
They hit the soldier with a car first.

I assume they could have murdered him with the car.:sad:
Ban cars. Not only does it stop murders with cars, but it also stops hit-and-runs, speeding, no-seatbelt drivers and drunk driving. PROBLEM SOLVED.


Link to video.
 
Ban cars. Not only does it stop murders with cars, but it also stops hit-and-runs, speeding, no-seatbelt drivers and drunk driving. PROBLEM SOLVED.

I knew someone once who was arrested whilst in possession of a frozen chicken.

It could be used to murder someone.
 
Article about the murdered man.

From The Guardian

Lee Rigby was born in Manchester, spent a year in Cyprus, and served for six months in Afghanistan with the military during one of the most violent periods of the 12-year-long conflict.

His friends and family could never have imagined that the 25-year-old would lose his life in broad daylight, on a busy London street, at the hands of two men wielding knives and boasting allegiance to a virulent form of Islamist extremism.

These men would not have known that their victim was a father of a two-year-old boy, Jack.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/23/lee-rigby-ordinary-soldier-woolwich-attack
 
Anyone know where I can get the latest literature on bullethole surgery? The implications for patient recovery of using a remote-controlled gun to conduct surgical procedures through a small perforation is quite huge, you know.
 
God bless America. I don't even have to leave my home and I can have a quality knife in less than 24 hours delivered right to my door. I don't have to justify it, excuse it, or give a reason as to why I might want it. I just order it.

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That's not a knife!

Spoiler :
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I -really- thought you were going for a Crocodile Dundee thing there with the spoiler. ;)
 
The point is that the body count would be 0 if knives were strictly restricted.

It's truly mind blowing that one can just buy bladed weapons.

Oh right, the knife nuts want their precious weapons to cut their meat or open packages (likely filled with even more knives they ordered through the internet!). Well tell that to all the innocent people getting stabbed by them!:mad:

Guns, explosives, heavy machine guns, mortars dont kill people, Obama lies killed 4 people !!!! :mad:
 
All this "knives need to be regulated lol" talk is silly

Guns don't need to be regulated not because people die. They need to be regulated because they are machines designed to kill.

Knives are designed to cut. Not as much regulation is necessary.
 
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