The " When I was a Newbie I... " Thread.
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Admiral Armada
The Admiral of Armadas
I never lost a battle (i.e. I would save and reload if one of my units lost)
When BTS came out and i first saw the espionage tech labels next to the other leaders (showing what they are researching), i thought they were stealing those techs from me in that amount of turns, and i couldn't figure out how to stop it.
Way back in Civ III, i played with the power bar utility, gave my self lots of gold, modded the Americans to have all the traits, all governments to allow rush buying, and jsut ran 100% science all game with rush-buying all units/ buildings, always as America.
When BTS came out and i first saw the espionage tech labels next to the other leaders (showing what they are researching), i thought they were stealing those techs from me in that amount of turns, and i couldn't figure out how to stop it.
Way back in Civ III, i played with the power bar utility, gave my self lots of gold, modded the Americans to have all the traits, all governments to allow rush buying, and jsut ran 100% science all game with rush-buying all units/ buildings, always as America.
I never built roads to my resources. Thus no copper, iron, bananas... All I ever had was archers to defend. Guess who got DoWed? Then I accidentally automated my workers and I saw them building roads. Then I could build things!
I swear I could hear laughter coming from inside my computer...
I swear I could hear laughter coming from inside my computer...
champ82
Immortal Ruler
I don't remember playing civ 4 below noble. A couple of rookie mistakes include
...not building stock exchange in my holy city. And then building a corporation outside of my stock exchange city.
...thinking statue of zeus would be enough to turn the tide and easily roll over a civ that was just as strong as me
...not caring if I matched my neighbors' religion
Somehow I managed to beat the game consistently on noble, and then prince with a variety of victory conditions (and once on monarch) with automated workers and building iron works and national park in the same city
Now I am having 'forum ideas' trouble – changing my strategies based on info learned on this forum. I tried the stasis rush and it messed up the foreign relations on my continent permanently. I did it to Roosevelt, who is usually an ideal neighbor, while he only had one city. I didn't do it correctly though, I had a fortified woodsman II warrior in hills/forest, not an archer. Anyway I wish I never did that, as he brought some archers to kill my warrior aprox. a mere 20 turns later (on marathon) and Isabella is my other neighbor and I want to take her out first (as no one else has her religion, if I appease her, others won't like me.)
I'm actually playing my first game without automated workers. Not that I ever completely automated my workers, I would control their every move at the beginning and when I got railroad. It is helping me out somewhat, but actually, I don't think by a whole lot. They're not getting captured at least.
I tried checking out what all this specialist economy hub-bub was about. I have a philosophical leader, didn't get pyramids. In my capital I'm trying to run specialists. It seems tricky / not really worth it unless you have two or more food resources (I only have one.) So I think I will not automate my workers any more but will stay in CE.
BTW, how many of you out there think it is necessary / extreamly helpful to turn to SE at higher levels?
While I'm at it, how many of you who play Monarch or above stop using slavery at some point? And when?
OK – In conclusion, while this forum has helped me many times, sometimes sticking to your guts is better. Sorry for the long post.
...not building stock exchange in my holy city. And then building a corporation outside of my stock exchange city.
...thinking statue of zeus would be enough to turn the tide and easily roll over a civ that was just as strong as me
...not caring if I matched my neighbors' religion
Somehow I managed to beat the game consistently on noble, and then prince with a variety of victory conditions (and once on monarch) with automated workers and building iron works and national park in the same city
Now I am having 'forum ideas' trouble – changing my strategies based on info learned on this forum. I tried the stasis rush and it messed up the foreign relations on my continent permanently. I did it to Roosevelt, who is usually an ideal neighbor, while he only had one city. I didn't do it correctly though, I had a fortified woodsman II warrior in hills/forest, not an archer. Anyway I wish I never did that, as he brought some archers to kill my warrior aprox. a mere 20 turns later (on marathon) and Isabella is my other neighbor and I want to take her out first (as no one else has her religion, if I appease her, others won't like me.)
I'm actually playing my first game without automated workers. Not that I ever completely automated my workers, I would control their every move at the beginning and when I got railroad. It is helping me out somewhat, but actually, I don't think by a whole lot. They're not getting captured at least.
I tried checking out what all this specialist economy hub-bub was about. I have a philosophical leader, didn't get pyramids. In my capital I'm trying to run specialists. It seems tricky / not really worth it unless you have two or more food resources (I only have one.) So I think I will not automate my workers any more but will stay in CE.
BTW, how many of you out there think it is necessary / extreamly helpful to turn to SE at higher levels?
While I'm at it, how many of you who play Monarch or above stop using slavery at some point? And when?
OK – In conclusion, while this forum has helped me many times, sometimes sticking to your guts is better. Sorry for the long post.
champ82
Immortal Ruler
And this whole wanting “a perfect 21” thing for your cities being a “newbie” thing to do...I don't always aim to utilize all 21 tiles, but I do more often than not. Every time I decide to make a so-so city that is a parasite off of a great city I regret it.
TigerBotHesh
Chieftain
My first Civ IV game was the big world map in Vanilla. Wanted to really get the full feel of Civ IV, so I turned all victory conditions off and just played. Started as America, discovered Judiasm and converted the Aztecs and Mayans to that religion.
Got to thinking, 'If I can unite the North and South American continents I'll be unstoppable.' So I had great relations with my neighbors, backstab them and invade.
Spent the next 2,000 years fighting a bloody back-and-forth religious civil war with my neighbors. Eventually bully my way into South America and clean everyone out. Time to rule the world, right?
At some point (long befire I finally got around to exploring Eurasia), Germany and Mongolia had signed a permanent alliance and proceeded to run roughshod. They owned everything, with the only surviving players being England (in the British Isles), the Chinese (their only city was Paris!), Japan (in Japan), and Egypt trying to hold off the German-Mongolian axis on the Nile.
A few turns after making contact with Europe, Thebes fell and Africa was soon swamped. For some reason, Japan was never invaded, despite being stuck several centuries behind in technology.
Used lots of nukes (probably 50+) to help wipe out Germany, and the world became so barren by the time I got around to driving on Mongolia that I never finished the game.
Got to thinking, 'If I can unite the North and South American continents I'll be unstoppable.' So I had great relations with my neighbors, backstab them and invade.
Spent the next 2,000 years fighting a bloody back-and-forth religious civil war with my neighbors. Eventually bully my way into South America and clean everyone out. Time to rule the world, right?
At some point (long befire I finally got around to exploring Eurasia), Germany and Mongolia had signed a permanent alliance and proceeded to run roughshod. They owned everything, with the only surviving players being England (in the British Isles), the Chinese (their only city was Paris!), Japan (in Japan), and Egypt trying to hold off the German-Mongolian axis on the Nile.
A few turns after making contact with Europe, Thebes fell and Africa was soon swamped. For some reason, Japan was never invaded, despite being stuck several centuries behind in technology.
Used lots of nukes (probably 50+) to help wipe out Germany, and the world became so barren by the time I got around to driving on Mongolia that I never finished the game.
ese-aSH
Prince
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17 years ago... a strange icon was blinking in the middle of my screen... an advisor told me to press 'B' to found a city... I obeyed... I was asked to choose something to build, the advisor says 'warrior !', I obeyed... 5 / 7 turns later a new blinking icon, different from the first one spawned from my city, and noone told me what to do with it, so I moved around the map, wandering alone in this strange world, until a red icon, similar to mine, came and raze my city.
It took me years to realize that it was possible to create specialists in cities.
first civ4 game was in Prince if I remember well, had no idea of what SE means, so just spammed cottages everywhere. I also spamed forts everywhere outside fatcross, in the beginning I always started a revolution a soon as I unlock a new civic. I also used to take care of forests, never chopping them for hammers : forest are nature !
It took me years to realize that it was possible to create specialists in cities.
first civ4 game was in Prince if I remember well, had no idea of what SE means, so just spammed cottages everywhere. I also spamed forts everywhere outside fatcross, in the beginning I always started a revolution a soon as I unlock a new civic. I also used to take care of forests, never chopping them for hammers : forest are nature !
Kip Beagle
Sleestak
I had no idea what culture did so I ignored it, thus, rarely got the bfc, instead settling for the lss (little skinny square?).
Also, I thought every city had to have each of the tile improvements, so every city got 1 mine, 1 farm, 1 cottage, 1 workshop, etc.
Also, I thought every city had to have each of the tile improvements, so every city got 1 mine, 1 farm, 1 cottage, 1 workshop, etc.
Og The Caveman
Chieftain
Built the market-grocer-bank combo in every single city, along with most of the other buildings aswell.
Didn't specialize cities.
Thought that Notre Dame was actually worth the hammers...
Thought that Space Elevator was actually worth the hammers...
Always swithed to caste system when i got CoL and stucked with it 'til emancipation, though I had no clue about SE whatsoever. Whipping was a stupid thing to do, why would anyone waste population?!
Didn't specialize cities.
Thought that Notre Dame was actually worth the hammers...
Thought that Space Elevator was actually worth the hammers...
Always swithed to caste system when i got CoL and stucked with it 'til emancipation, though I had no clue about SE whatsoever. Whipping was a stupid thing to do, why would anyone waste population?!
Why? Does not the Notre Dame worth the cost?????
For me is very useful!
And the Space Elevator too!
Maybe I am still a rookie...sigh!
Automated most my workers.
Never picked which tiles for my cities to work.
Never upgraded units.
Never ran a specialist.
Tried to build every wonder.
Agreed to all of the pop-up tips.
Didn't know how to group units.
Didn't know how to queue builds.
Always used great person to bulb.
Never picked which tiles for my cities to work.
Never upgraded units.
Never ran a specialist.
Tried to build every wonder.
Agreed to all of the pop-up tips.
Didn't know how to group units.
Didn't know how to queue builds.
Always used great person to bulb.
Matthew5117
Emperor
I was like, what are those circles? They're annoying! when the city screen was opened.
Didn't even know you could work tiles, yeah, embarrassing.
Didn't even know you could work tiles, yeah, embarrassing.
Og The Caveman
Chieftain
Why? Does not the Notre Dame worth the cost?????
For me is very useful!
And the Space Elevator too!
Maybe I am still a rookie...sigh!
This was pre-BtS when the Notre Dame only gave 1 happiness per city, not two. Now I actually need it in some cases.
The Space elevator, though... One has to notice that the 50% build bonus is additive, like any other %-bonuses. So if you want to build Casings, for example, with Forge, Factory, Power, Laboratory and State property and w/Aluminium and your base prod is, say, 50, the actual prod is (25+50+50+10+100%)*50 = 117.5. With Space elevator it's just another 50% more, then the prod is 142.5, which is 24% increase. It isn't much, really... Especially in Ironworks city (Ironworks adds another 100% with coal). Just two, maybe three turns less.
Besides...
I wouldn't otherwise have to research robotics and that stuff, I'd prefer teching fiber optics and fusion meanwhile I build my other spaceship parts.
SE costs 2000 hammers, five times more than one SS Casing. With all the hammers wasted on the SE, you could easily have built all the casings!
Besides, there's the latitude rule, which limits the # of cities SE can be built.
LordBuildaholic
Warlord
Genv [FP];7291274 said:
I still occasionally think these things...
LordBuildaholic
Warlord
I still grudgingly chop, but I still have never instituted slavery. It's probably why I can't win on anything above Noble.
Diamondeye
So Happy I Could Die
I still think Slavery is useless.
I still road most of my improved squares.
I still use Serfdom.
I do fine on Monarch. I must be doing something right...
I still road most of my improved squares.
I still use Serfdom.
I do fine on Monarch. I must be doing something right...
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