OzzyKP
Emperor
I'm just making it for BTS, sorry. Hard enough to get everything right for one version, let alone for three. Maybe you could convert it to Vanilla & Warlords.
These Fractured States of America - Development Thread
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Devil Inside
Chieftain
- Joined
- Aug 11, 2007
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well....if there were a file to download, i would gladly play it and give input.. i LOVE stuff like this.
any chance you would re-upload it?
any chance you would re-upload it?
OzzyKP
Emperor
You can find it here:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/d0a295
Like I said, it crashes after like 50-60 turns. If you can help figure out why I'd be incredibly appreciative.
http://www.filefactory.com/file/d0a295
Like I said, it crashes after like 50-60 turns. If you can help figure out why I'd be incredibly appreciative.
The Navy Seal
Emperor
Does it give a error message when it crashes? If it doesn't can you send your logs.
OzzyKP
Emperor
I could send the log, yea. Gimmie a bit.
OzzyKP
Emperor
Ok, here is the dump file:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a9dcb7
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a9dcb7
The Navy Seal
Emperor
I've been working on fixing this MOD all week and figured out and fixed the problem! I'll have the attachment with it on this post until OzzyKP gets a chance to get it on the DB for ya!
Shiggs713
Immortal
nice job Navy Seal 
OzzyKP
Emperor
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!
You kick major ass Navy Seal. Thank you so much. This thing is finally back on track. I just hope someone out there actually cares...
You kick major ass Navy Seal. Thank you so much. This thing is finally back on track. I just hope someone out there actually cares...
7StarGeneral
Chieftain
If your still working on this i'd love to help. I'm studying to be an American History and Western Civ major, and i dig stuff like this.
anything i can do to help..
anything i can do to help..
OzzyKP
Emperor
Well unfortuantely the project is still stalled. Navy Seal fixed a bug, but unfortunately he had an outdated version of the mod, so he spent all that time fixing something that was already fixed. 
So the current version of the mod still has a crash in it, and that needs to be fixed before this can really move forward. I'll upload what I have now I suppose. Though I was really hoping to get the mod fully working before I posted a new version. Oh well.
So the current version of the mod still has a crash in it, and that needs to be fixed before this can really move forward. I'll upload what I have now I suppose. Though I was really hoping to get the mod fully working before I posted a new version. Oh well.
7StarGeneral
Chieftain
well, your current link doesn';t work, so thats an issue...
but better to load what you have so far and get user input. if i can get my hands on it i may be able to fix some bugs
but better to load what you have so far and get user input. if i can get my hands on it i may be able to fix some bugs
OzzyKP
Emperor
Does anyone know a good site for uploading files? I think the mod is too big for the download section here. The site I used before takes the file down after a few days so that's no good.
Shiggs713
Immortal
I'd use mediafire.com
davidlallen
Deity
If you are still looking for a solution to the mid-game crash, I suggest you try civchecker in the download database. Usually this kind of crash is due to a symbol used in the XML, which isn't defined. Civchecker finds all of these. Sadly in the 3.17 patch, Firaxis uses 87 symbols which aren't defined, so you have to ignore those.
One common example is when unit X can upgrade to unitclass Y, but you have removed unitclass Y from the game. No errors come when the game loads, but as soon as the AI thinks about upgrading one of its units X, it crashes. This type of thing is painful to spot manually.
One common example is when unit X can upgrade to unitclass Y, but you have removed unitclass Y from the game. No errors come when the game loads, but as soon as the AI thinks about upgrading one of its units X, it crashes. This type of thing is painful to spot manually.
OzzyKP
Emperor
Ok, I've uploaded it on Media fire, and added the link to the page in the download section. So go here to download it:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6854
Unfortunately the 3.17 patch broke the mod, it breaks upon loading. So if anyone were so inclined, I'd love help fixing that initial crash it'd be great. Once that gets fixed, there is another crash that occurs around turn 50 or 60.
Here is my change log:
Starting using the Civil War mod as a base.
Added in Fractured States civs & leaders
Tweaked Confederacy, Mexico & Canada
Added Buffalo, Silk & Oil resource
Removed Salt, Cannabis, & Olives
Added in lots of techs
Removed a few
Moved heaven to accomodate removing those techs
Added religions
Removed a few units
Added sepia HUD
Added in military techs
Organized the tech tree
Removed spearman, warrior & caravel
Added names for great people
Created 7 Unit Styles:
- Union
- Confederate
- Canada
- Mexico/Rio Grande
- Native (Apache, Cherokee, Chinookan)
- Sioux (a separate flavor since bernie14 has made so many amazing units)
- The Rest (Oregon, Texas, California, Deseret, Vermont)
Added a bit of unit art
Added Circus, Public School & Ship Yard
Added Horseman trait
Added Government civics
Added Opera, Religious buildings (sorta), saloon, museum, horse track
Removed some more tech
Moved earth to accomodate removing those techs
Removed new units & unit styles due to crashes
Added cities on the map
Tweaked rivers on the map
Adjusted population of cities based on 1850 census figures (at least for the US)
Added resources in roughly accurate locations
Adjusted maintenence costs, calendar, and other various settings
Tweaked religious buildings some more, added protestant church
Added religious missionaries
Added water tower (awesome design btw)
Fixed city icons for religions & fixed .tga file
Added new title screen, loading screen, & civilopedia/tech screen
Removed more old tech
Added urban planning tech, moved water tower there
Created & added public school art files
Added printing press tech, tweaked tech prereqs
Removed default eras and added new eras:
- Ante-Bellum
- Civil War
- Gilded Age
- Progressive
Added Phonograph Parlor
Added some tech, organized tech tree
Added lots of new buttons, fixed old buttons
Added art for newspaper, war factory, cannery, fishery, grain elevator, brewery (just art so far)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=6854
Unfortunately the 3.17 patch broke the mod, it breaks upon loading. So if anyone were so inclined, I'd love help fixing that initial crash it'd be great. Once that gets fixed, there is another crash that occurs around turn 50 or 60.
Here is my change log:
Starting using the Civil War mod as a base.
Added in Fractured States civs & leaders
Tweaked Confederacy, Mexico & Canada
Added Buffalo, Silk & Oil resource
Removed Salt, Cannabis, & Olives
Added in lots of techs
Removed a few
Moved heaven to accomodate removing those techs
Added religions
Removed a few units
Added sepia HUD
Added in military techs
Organized the tech tree
Removed spearman, warrior & caravel
Added names for great people
Created 7 Unit Styles:
- Union
- Confederate
- Canada
- Mexico/Rio Grande
- Native (Apache, Cherokee, Chinookan)
- Sioux (a separate flavor since bernie14 has made so many amazing units)
- The Rest (Oregon, Texas, California, Deseret, Vermont)
Added a bit of unit art
Added Circus, Public School & Ship Yard
Added Horseman trait
Added Government civics
Added Opera, Religious buildings (sorta), saloon, museum, horse track
Removed some more tech
Moved earth to accomodate removing those techs
Removed new units & unit styles due to crashes
Added cities on the map
Tweaked rivers on the map
Adjusted population of cities based on 1850 census figures (at least for the US)
Added resources in roughly accurate locations
Adjusted maintenence costs, calendar, and other various settings
Tweaked religious buildings some more, added protestant church
Added religious missionaries
Added water tower (awesome design btw)
Fixed city icons for religions & fixed .tga file
Added new title screen, loading screen, & civilopedia/tech screen
Removed more old tech
Added urban planning tech, moved water tower there
Created & added public school art files
Added printing press tech, tweaked tech prereqs
Removed default eras and added new eras:
- Ante-Bellum
- Civil War
- Gilded Age
- Progressive
Added Phonograph Parlor
Added some tech, organized tech tree
Added lots of new buttons, fixed old buttons
Added art for newspaper, war factory, cannery, fishery, grain elevator, brewery (just art so far)
deanej
Deity
First: The initial crash is most likely due to the No Espionage option. If you have a modded version of Civ4GameOptionInfos.xml it will need to be updated.
Second: It looks like you removed lots of buildings and units and forgot to remove the unitclasses and buildingclasses. Additionally, you're missing lots of tech references with regards to the resources and some art. I've attacked the relevant parts from civchecker.
Note: some or all of the missing art stuff may not be relevant and seems to show up for every mod.
Second: It looks like you removed lots of buildings and units and forgot to remove the unitclasses and buildingclasses. Additionally, you're missing lots of tech references with regards to the resources and some art. I've attacked the relevant parts from civchecker.
Spoiler :
Note: some or all of the missing art stuff may not be relevant and seems to show up for every mod.
davidlallen
Deity
Those four particular undefined arts show up in the standard BTS. They are real errors in BTS as distributed, but apparently they do not cause any problem. Sadly, in the 3.17 patch there are a bunch of similar errors.
When I first started mod development way back in May, 2008
-) I was very depressed by all the crashes I was having. That is why I wrote civchecker. After I removed all the stuff like what deanej has pointed out, then I never had any more crashes.
Please try it out.
When I first started mod development way back in May, 2008
-) I was very depressed by all the crashes I was having. That is why I wrote civchecker. After I removed all the stuff like what deanej has pointed out, then I never had any more crashes.Please try it out.
deanej
Deity
Does civchecker look at Civ4ProjectInfos.xml? The "errors" in Civ4SpaceShipInfos are in fact not errors, the projects are there, but civchecker doesn't see them for some reason.
davidlallen
Deity
I don't have the opportunity to actually download these files and run civchecker on them. In the error log you posted, I do not see any errors flagged in spaceshipinfos.
The tool loads all the xml files from your mod, then all the new files from bts, then all the new files from warlords, then all the new files from vanilla. So it will load every file, which the game engine itself will load. Is it possible your messages are coming because of an unexpected shadow reference? That is, maybe you are expecting a vanilla file to be loaded but the warlords version is used instead?
To investigate that, you may want the report_filenames command, as described in the documentation.
The tool loads all the xml files from your mod, then all the new files from bts, then all the new files from warlords, then all the new files from vanilla. So it will load every file, which the game engine itself will load. Is it possible your messages are coming because of an unexpected shadow reference? That is, maybe you are expecting a vanilla file to be loaded but the warlords version is used instead?
To investigate that, you may want the report_filenames command, as described in the documentation.
