While I can appreciate your opinion of the game, the above quote isn't even in the comparing apples and oranges ballpark...its more like watermelons and sneakers. The OP is pretty close to the truth as I remember it as well. This, and other forums as well, were aflame with criticism. Not just "this thing is buggy as hell!", but many polls showing the dissatisfaction, how horrible the AI was, the many reasons past Civs were better, the "why are we beta testing another game?!?!" posts, the game changes there were "game breakers! Oh noooooes!", and the oh so persuasive "this game is doomed to fail!"...those were the best. I am no forum pro. I am not going to wax poetic on you about how wonderful Civ V is. But I will say this...because its the only real truth out there. Civ V will either get money pumped into it and be polished with a few expansions and patches that make it the gem it can be, or, they will alow the modders to do the work and let it die a slow and miserable death. Taking with it the good name of a wonderful franchise...until of course...Sid resurrects it once again. We have been here before, and will be here again. The human race is doomed to repeat history because apparantly, no one truly gives a rats azz about history.