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This game is bad and you should feel bad for buying it

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by mitsuko, Nov 5, 2016.

  1. gunnergoz

    gunnergoz Cat Herder

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    You poor, poor man, my heart goes out to you. Such misfortune. Such misery. It is almost too much to bear. Did I mention I'm over 222 hours now? It's a terrible, terrible game and I'm so, so sad that I bought it. I have to go now, my crying towel is dripping all over my keyboard.
     
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  2. nokmirt

    nokmirt Emperor

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    The game is broken, but they'll fix it.
     
  3. StittsvileJamie

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    Guess what OP, I pre-ordered it even.;)

    *drools on shirt*
     
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  4. Slayan

    Slayan Warlord

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    Wow I'm have a blast playing the game I guess I now have to sue my university for giving me my degree because I must be an idiot for loving this game
     
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  5. Disgustipated

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    A post disappeared, I just wanted to remind people that Civ3 shipped without multiplayer, and Civ 5 shipped without religion and espionage. This game has all those things. It's a bit harsh to call it unfinished. Some features need some work obviously, mainly talking about unit upgrades and resources needed for units.
     
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  6. Ferocitus

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    I wrote up my PhD on one computer while playing Civ5 on another computer, and watching approx. 200 hours of Star Gate on another.
    But I was only 57 years old then, a naive callow yoof.
    At 61 I now know that the enjoyment I'm getting out of Civ 6 is just a hollow, shallow facsimile of the real thing.

    On my deathbed, like millions of others, my dying words will be, "Urggh, I wish I'd spent more time playing Civ *"

    *: Insert favourite pre-Civ6 version here.
     
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  7. 3 EMS

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    I have some functioning ganglia.
    The game will get better as a game. I've been with Firaxes for a long time so I have no doubts about that. In the meantime its, at the least, a pretty fun interactive map.
     
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  8. Danzo_87

    Danzo_87 Warlord

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    I mean, if they release it without the new features (districts, religious victory etc) but without these bugs (not counting those undiscovered ones), the complain would be "This game is not worth it because it is bare bone!!!", as long as the dev team rolls out patches regularly, I am ok with it since this is so much better than when civ 5 vanilla launched (and that was with less feature and system compared to 6 as well)
     
  9. The Highwayman

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    I love this game and I am glad I not only payed full price but pre-ordered it as well.
     
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  10. ggmoyang

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    Hmm... I see a like button, but where's my dislike button again?
     
  11. Acken

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    When you hate your hobby that much it's time to find another one.
     
  12. Xyriach

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    So your plan is what? To not buy any game until it's completely polished? In the age of the internet no publisher is going to wait until a game is 100% as they can patch it following community observation and testing. Beta testing will find a certain amount that can be fixed and Go Live will then produce a truck load of issues that no testing house could possibly find.

    I work in software project management (not games, commercial applications) and can tell you that no matter how robust your testing, users will find issues that your UAT scripts never even dreamed of. They'll try things to actively break the mechanics which you can't test for (full regression and anti-function testing could potentially take years and yield no results, it's not commercially viable (unless you want to pay £8,000 for a game)).

    Yes, there are bugs, that's what patches are for.

    Go back to the 1980s when there was no such thing as a patch and if you had bugs, you had bugs and nobody could fix them post release.

    People who buy games at release, are the reason you get patches and expansions. People who buy games at release are what keeps the industry viably commercial and therefore pay for the development of further game and in part, are the people to thank for locating issues that enable even greater functionality to be added.

    Your complaint, IMHO, is little more than a "toys out of pram" response and shows little to no understanding of how a commercial publishing house actually works, let alone testing and development cycles.

    That said, it should not be up to the consumer to take ownership of these issues. However, as the game is playable, the issues that the consumer does find can be evaluated and repaired as required. But even then, it's up to you what you spend your money on, blaming other people for your bad experience doesn't work.

    As you're in a position to identify that there are issues in the game, it's fair to presume that you've bought the game and therefore fall into the very group you're attempting to blame. Where's the logic in that?
     
  13. Ferocitus

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    And that's the pointy end of the matter!
    I expect a lot of bugs and not much playability for a $10 game.
    For $8,000 I want near-perfection and the CEO's 1st born as a guarantee.

    For $50-$100 I expect a few bugs, but a lot of enjoyment.
    Got it, and got it now.
     
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  14. bladex

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    this thread is bad and you should feel bad for creating it :smoke:
     
  15. Sogno di Volare

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    I'm having a great time, feels great.
     
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    funny enough that the OP never showed up in this thread again... Maybe he's busy playing the game.. :crazyeye:
     
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  17. Heklios

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    Video Games a dirt cheap. I'm probably going to sink hundreds of hours into Civ6. 60 bucks' a joke.

    I definitely don't want to get this ball rolling, but I'm actually surprised at how slowly the prices of games increased compared to the insane growth of this industry.

    Subscriptions, Micro-transactions and paid DLCs only marginally raised the price. When you compare to how much money people have started spending on other products, it's frightening. Just look at smartphones. Yet nobody complains.

    People like Star Citizen definitely saw this opportunity and will probably revolutionize how much money gamers are going to spend on their hobby. They have customers buying virtual spaceships for $2500 there. Real USD.

    So when you come here to write about "full price" of a $60 game, I just can't help but smile.
     
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  18. Ricci

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    Adaptation is almost always the easy way...
     
  19. Ricci

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    The hype-ing doormat market some came to tag as.
     
  20. Disgustipated

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    Shhh, we don't want the gaming companies to see this. And some people are young and don't make much money. $60 isn't much to me, but it could be to younger players. For a game like Civ6, I easily get my $60 dollars worth, this is true. But some other games I struggle to get my money's worth. I like to get $1 per hour of value out of a game, which I admit is pretty damn good compared to other entertainment options. Other genres of games struggle to give me this value. Especially FPS which I never buy, because they all are terrible. Even some of the crappier RPG's don't give me that value. Civ games always have, even the lesser ones like Civ 3.
     

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