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Confounding President Bush (news - web sites)'s pledges to rein in government growth, federal discretionary spending expanded by 12.5 percent in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, capping a two-year bulge that saw the government grow by more than 27 percent, according to preliminary spending figures from congressional budget panels.

The sudden rise in spending subject to Congress's annual discretion stands in marked contrast to the 1990s, when such discretionary spending rose an average of 2.4 percent a year. Not since 1980 and 1981 has federal spending risen at a similar clip. Before those two years, spending increases of this magnitude occurred at the height of the Vietnam War, 1966 to 1968.

The preliminary spending figures for 2003 also raise questions about the government's long-term fiscal health. Bush administration officials have said fiscal restraint and "pro-growth" tax cuts should put the government on a path to a balanced budget. Bush has demanded that spending that is subject to Congress's annual discretion be capped at 4 percent.

But the Republican-led Congress has not obliged. The federal government spent nearly $826 billion in fiscal 2003, an increase of $91.5 billion over 2002, said G. William Hoagland, a senior budget and economic aide to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.). Military spending shot up nearly 17 percent, to $407.3 billion, but nonmilitary discretionary spending also far outpaced Bush's limit, rising 8.7 percent, to $418.6 billion.

Much of the increase was driven by war in Afghanistan (news - web sites) and Iraq (news - web sites), as well as homeland security spending after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But spending has risen on domestic programs such as transportation and agriculture, as well. Total federal spending -- including non-discretionary entitlement programs such as Social Security (news - web sites), Medicare and Medicaid -- reached $2.16 trillion in 2003, a 7.3 percent boost, according to the Congressional Budget Office (news - web sites).

White House officials have said the president's 4 percent annual growth cap was never supposed to curtail "one-time" spending requests, such as natural disaster aid or wars. But even if such emergency spending measures are removed, spending jumped last year by 7.9 percent, Hoagland said.

"Getting growth down to 4 percent? We're still not there, not by any stretch of the imagination," he said.

Administration officials say spending is being brought under control. White House spokeswoman Jeanie Mamo said the president cut spending growth, excluding the Pentagon (news - web sites) and homeland security, to 6 percent in 2002 and 5 percent in 2003, and has proposed to hold all discretionary spending to 4 percent growth this year.

"The president has said that he would spend what's necessary to win the war on terrorism and protect Americans at home," she said, "but outside these items, he has put a serious brake on other spending, which is key to halving these deficits over five years."

Even some Republicans have trouble squaring such comments with the evidence. "It's still more than it ought to be," Hazen Marshall, Senate Budget Committee staff director, said of spending that excludes the military and homeland security.

Official spending figures for fiscal 2003 will not be released until January, when the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office unveils its next 10-year federal deficit forecast. But the latest figures track closely with the CBO estimates released in August.

"I don't expect the official numbers to be any different than those, or not much different," Marshall said.

Regardless of the final numbers, there can be little doubt that government growth has been accelerating, said Richard Kogan, a federal budget analyst at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. And although Congress ultimately controls the purse strings, Bush is not immune from criticism, said Rudolph G. Penner, a Republican and former CBO director.

"The most interesting thing is Bush has not vetoed anything, let alone a spending program," Penner said. "One wonders how serious the White House is about holding the line."

Stan Collender, a federal budget analyst at Fleishman-Hillard Inc., said: "This is an administration that cannot possibly take up the mantle of fiscal conservatism. It's probably the least fiscally conservative in history."

Penner said the lapse in spending restraint occurred in two stages. First came large, projected budget surpluses at the end of the Clinton administration. Discretionary spending rose 0.9 percent in 1998, then 3.6 percent in 1999 and 7.5 percent in 2000. The projected surpluses have disappeared into a flood of red ink, but the 2001 terrorist attacks, coupled with a recession that year, eliminated any sense of restraint beyond rhetoric, Penner said.

"After September 11, it was 'We have to do anything we can to pull ourselves out of recession and protect ourselves,' " he said, adding that the surge in deficits and spending have so far had few political ramifications. "I don't remember a time when there's been so little commentary on it, and I can't really explain it."

Marshall said the surge in military spending was inevitable, once the nation mobilized for war, first in Afghanistan and then in Iraq. The nonmilitary discretionary spending increases have been driven by increases in homeland security spending, he said.

But even after factoring those out, some Republicans say spending is rising too quickly. Marshall noted that after Republicans took control of Congress in the 1994 elections, discretionary spending actually fell, by 1.6 percent between 1994 and 1996.

Budget experts said taxpayers should not anticipate a return to austerity anytime soon. The military bill that passed Congress yesterday would mandate $40 billion in additional spending over the next decade, Marshall said. Nearly half of that would be for veterans' benefits, but $18 billion would finance a controversial program to buy and lease military tanker planes from Boeing Co.
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Republicans who like to fancy themselves as fiscal conservatives need wake up and smell the money; your party is not the party of small government or responsible fiscal policies - no matter how much it likes to say it is.
 
Many republicans and fiscal conservatives have been dismayed at the budget, even taking into acount war expenses, related foreign aids payments, and home security expenses. It is somewhat bloated. Much of that comes form the ususal horse trading in congress, large numbers of congressmen hold out on vitally needed matters until they get some slabs of pork. Homeland security appropriations, while periously thin in some important areas, are pork loaded in others. Military programs, long obselete, are continued if in some chairman district. Nomiantions are held up until someone gets his pet boodogle authorised.
This is a generic congress conditon, however, not a party one.
 
Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
This is a generic congress conditon, however, not a party one.

Congress, eh? What about the President? Who do you think masterminded the 1990s deal:
Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
The sudden rise in spending subject to Congress's annual discretion stands in marked contrast to the 1990s, when such discretionary spending rose an average of 2.4 percent a year.
--the deal whereby federal deficits were held down in order to (successfully) persuade the Fed to keep interest rates down?

Need a hinton?
 
Yes, it's Clinton's fault. :rolleyes: Everything is his fault, from Communism to the fact that America never successfully invaded Canada. Of course, the current staff has nothing to do with any of this. :rolleyes: Please....
 
But remember, despite the spiralling budget, Republicans are STILL the party of small government, because they want to invade your privacy by legislating private morality and by authorizing further erosion of civil rights in favor of the intrusion of massive and secretive government bureaucracies.
 
Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
Many republicans and fiscal conservatives have been dismayed at the budget, even taking into acount war expenses, related foreign aids payments, and home security expenses. It is somewhat bloated. This is a generic congress conditon, however, not a party one.

Thanks for reopening. I'm probably best described as a moderate republican if I were in the US, and I'm pretty disappointed in Bush's appalling fiscal leadership, and I'm a little baffled as to how attacking that weakness is necessarily a troll.

The problem, in the end, is that Bush and many Republicans are in a position to use the war as a cover for free spending attitudes and an unwillingness to say "no" that they'd normally be forced to have under different circumstances by the party's core vote.

In other words, despite all the tough talk, Bush is a decadent, soft, mushy red. :D

R.III
 
Originally posted by Richard III


Thanks for reopening. I'm probably best described as a moderate republican if I were in the US, and I'm pretty disappointed in Bush's appalling fiscal leadership, and I'm a little baffled as to how attacking that weakness is necessarily a troll.


I think the official reason is that doing that is unpatriotic and aids the enemy. Something like that......:crazyeye:

I have no flipping idea why the budget is getting so bloated. Then again, I'm not in the type of field that would go over each and every little itme on the budget.
 
7.3%...not too bad.

if democrats had their way the budget would be much larger than now...think prescription drug benifit...just wait till that one hits...there's another 2% increase.
 
Because Bush hasnt been straight with the people about anything yet.

In reality, neither party is small government. When the Democrats control the agenda, they pump education and health care spending. When the Repubilcans do, they put the money into the military.
 
Originally posted by HighlandWarrior
7.3%...not too bad.

if democrats had their way the budget would be much larger than now...think prescription drug benifit...just wait till that one hits...there's another 2% increase.


Ah, the famous "it's bad with us, but would be worse with the other guy" argument.

What a crock. What difference does it make what the Democrats would do? Why does that mean we suddenly have to just turn a blind eye to the failures of THIS administration?

Republicans led other people (especially republicans) to expect better from them, not just "better than the other guy." Clearly, Bush has failed on that score, and so have his tax-cut- and-spend allies in Congress.

R.III
 
I'm a conservative Republican, but I think I have to agree with the naysayers in this thread. Republican congressional performance on fiscal matters is appalling. I am disenfranchised with the lacluster presidency of Mr. Bush. He seems to be just sailing along merely tring to make it to the next election, playing it safe, sticking a wet finger in the wind.

I'm troubled about the business as usual attitude. I'm troubled about covering everything up with war. I'm troubled about the excuses. I'm troubled about the exhorbitant amounnts of money being spent. I'm troubled about the disgusting expansion of governemnt, and I'm especially troubled about Patriot Act type, individual freedom stomping legislation.

This Administration is conservative in name only. I think I'm gonna be sick. :(

--CK
 
CK hit the nail on the head. They spend money like it's my wife that's in charge.

You know what, Iowa has had a very bad budget crisis like most of the states. But the lawmakers, democrat and republican alike, actually deal with it. They make a lot of unpopular decisions that HAVE to be made. Why are Washington politicians so averse to doing that?

Our federal government is simply not working. Not only that, it's getting bigger and bigger. And there is not ONE candidate, that has a realistic chance of winning, who will do anything about it. You think any of the dems will? Ha! You think Bush will suddenly do a 180? Ha!

Hopefully, enough people will become disenfranchised with the path we are going to make a difference.
 
Like I keep saying, what we need is a GOP Eugene McCarthy, someone willing to take a shot at the bastard in NH.
 
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