Three Women Found After Being Abducted Over 10 Years Ago

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This incident is beyond comprehension to me in so many ways, as well as are similar incidents in the past. But what seems particularly disturbing is that the police had a number of clues that something strange was going on at this house, and they never connected the dots:

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NY Times: Before Escape, Fleeting Clues to Long Ordeal

CLEVELAND — One neighbor remembered occasional late-night deliveries of groceries to the boarded-up shoe box of a house in a rough-edged West Side neighborhood here.

Another remarked on a porch light that burned at night, even though many of the windows were covered.

“Why would an abandoned house have a porch light on?” he recalled thinking.

Still another said his sister had once seen a figure in an upstairs window, pounding on the glass.

On Tuesday, a stunned neighborhood learned that these were glimpses of a horrifying truth. For about a decade, the police said, three women were imprisoned inside the home at 2207 Seymour Avenue.

Those years of captivity ended late Monday when Amanda Berry, who had not been seen since she left her job at a local Burger King on April, 21, 2003, when she was 17, appeared at the front door of the house accompanied by a young child and screamed: “I need help! I need help! I have been kidnapped for 10 years!”

After two neighbors freed her by kicking in the chained front door and helped her make an urgent call to 911, three men were arrested in connection with the case — Ariel Castro, 52, the owner of the house, and his brothers, Pedro, 54, and Onil, 50. Ms. Berry and the child, along with Gina DeJesus, who disappeared while walking home from a city middle school in 2004, and Michelle Knight, who vanished at age 20 in 2002, were treated at a hospital and reunited with their families.

The conditions in the home, a law enforcement official said, were “abysmal at best.”

“They had no ability to leave the home or interact with anyone other than each other, the child and the suspect,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the continuing investigation.

Another official said the F.B.I. had begun questioning the women late Tuesday and had taken photos and helped collect evidence from the house.

The case recalled other kidnappings, like that of Jaycee Dugard, who was held prisoner in California for 18 years; Elizabeth Smart, who spent nine months in torment after being grabbed from her bedroom in Salt Lake City by Brian David Mitchell; and six women who were snatched, held and tortured in Belgium in the mid-1990s.

“These are some of the most catastrophic kinds of experiences a human being can be subjected to,” said Kris Mohandie, a forensic psychologist who has been a consultant in other long-term kidnapping cases.

The perpetrators of such crimes, Dr. Mohandie said, have been men “who have had longstanding fantasies of capturing, controlling, abusing and dominating women.”

Such men, he said, use a perverse system of rewards and punishments to create fear and submission in their victims, who quickly lose all sense of self and become dependent on their captors. “Total control over another human being is what stimulates them,” he said.

Angel Cordero, one of two men who helped Ms. Berry escape by kicking in the door, said that she had appeared ragged — her clothes dirty, her teeth yellowed and her hair “messy” — and that the child with her had looked “very nervous,” as though she had never seen anything outside the house before.

Mr. Cordero said he had held the child while Ms. Berry called 911, frantically telling the dispatcher: “I’m Amanda Berry. I’ve been in the news for the last 10 years.”

At a news conference on Tuesday, the authorities pleaded that the three women, now in their 20s and early 30s, be given space to recover from their ordeal.

Neighborhood residents spent the day shaking their heads in disbelief over what the police said had taken place inside the house. Public records show that the property was in foreclosure, and the Cuyahoga County prosecutor, Timothy J. McGinty, described it as in very bad shape.

But neighbors said Ariel Castro had appeared to be “a regular Joe,” who chatted with families on their porches, waved hello in the street and invited neighbors to clubs where he played bass with several Latin bands.

“He was not a troublemaker,” said Jovita Marti, 58, whose mother lives across the street from the house on Seymour Avenue.

But Zaida Delgado, 58, a family friend, said Ariel Castro also had a darker side.

“There was something not right about him,” she said. “He could be flaky and off the wall. He was also arrogant, like ‘I am Mr. Cool, I am the best.’ He had an attitude, like ‘I am God’s gift.’ ”

Some residents expressed anger at the police, who they said had not done enough to find the missing women.

“The Cleveland police should be ashamed of themselves,” said Yolanda Asia, an assistant manager of a store that rents furniture and appliances. “These girls were five minutes away. They were looking for years and years. They were right under their nose.”

One of the women may have been a close friend of Ariel Castro’s daughter, Arlene. Ms. Castro appeared on the Fox program “America’s Most Wanted” in 2005 to talk about her “best friend,” Gina DeJesus. Ms. Castro was identified on the program as the last person to have seen Ms. DeJesus before she disappeared, and she recounted on the program how they had been walking home from school together that day.

Ariel Castro had worked as a school bus driver but had a history of disciplinary problems. In 2004, he was interviewed by the police after “inadvertently” leaving a child on the bus. In 2009, he was called before a disciplinary hearing for negligence and disregard for the safety of passengers. He was fired in November 2012, after another “demonstration of lack of judgment,” according to school district records.

Israel Lugo, who lives three doors down from the Castro house, said Mr. Castro would often park the school bus outside the house between the morning and afternoon routes.

“He’ll go in the house, jump on his motorcycle, take off, come back, jump in the car, take off. Every time he switched a car, he switched an outfit,” he said.

Julio Cesar Castro, an uncle of the three brothers who owns the Caribe Grocery at Seymour and West 25th Street, said he and his brother, Ariel’s father, had migrated from Puerto Rico.

Ariel’s father died in 2004, Julian Castro said. Ariel had a wife and children, but the marriage ended.

In recent years Ariel had grown more withdrawn, his uncle said. “It could have been because of the hiding personality. He had to have two personalities,” he said.

Despite the three young women’s ordeal during a decade of captivity, their discovery was an uplifting moment for relatives, friends and the city.

At the home of Ms. DeJesus’s parents, bundles of balloons were tied to the front fence on Tuesday along with a banner that read, “Welcome Home Gina.”

Her cousin Cecily Cruz, 26, said she had heard about Ms. DeJesus’s rescue Monday from a customer while she was working as a local gas station attendant. She called her cousin’s family immediately and said she could hear Ms. DeJesus’s father in the background shouting: “She’s alive! They got my baby!”

Martin Flask, Cleveland’s director of public safety, said the endings of most missing persons cases were “usually tragic.” In this case, he said, “all of us are excited and pleased with the outcome. But when you look at what we suspect they experienced, our joy is tempered.”

USA Today: Reports of sex abuse, beatings inside Cleveland house

Elsie Cintron, who lives three houses away, said her daughter once saw a naked woman crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard several years ago and called police. "But they didn't take it seriously," she said.

Another neighbor, Israel Lugo, said he heard pounding on some of the doors of Castro's house, which had plastic bags on the windows, in November 2011. Lugo said officers knocked on the front door, but no one answered. "They walked to the side of the house and then left," he said.

Neighbors also said they would sometimes see Ariel Castro walking a little girl to a neighborhood playground. And Cintron said she once saw a little girl looking out of the house's attic window.

Israel Lugo said he, his family and neighbors called police three times between 2011 and 2012 after seeing disturbing things at the home of Ariel Castro. Lugo lives two houses down from Castro and grew suspicious after neighbors reported seeing naked women on leashes crawling on all fours behind Castro's house.

Lugo said about two years ago his sister told him she heard a woman pounding on a window at Castro's home as if she needed help. When his sister looked up, she saw a woman and a baby standing in a window half covered with a wooden plank. His sister told him and Lugo called the police.

Later, Lugo's mother called the police because Ariel Castro would park his school bus in front of their home and bring bags full of McDonald's and drinks into his home. They wondered why he needed so much food. Police again responded but didn't enter the home.

A third call came from neighborhood women who lived in an apartment building. Those women told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard. The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police never responded to the calls.
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I think this is kind of beyond comment. The police certainly seem to do a really poor job finding the urban missing in this country.
 
If the women had been from wealthy families, the cops would have been more diligent, I'm sure. Professional heads need to roll for this.
 
Many people phone the police about their neighbours because they do not like them.
Any individual call can easily be disbelieved.

Even with computerised record systems things like this may not be picked up.
 
The police recently tore apart a house and dug up an empty lot for this case. The police were not idle.

Modal morning quarterbacking these things is a natural reaction but real investigations are not like TV. There are no guarantees no matter how competently or hard you work on them.
 
What would you do if you had been locked up and raped for ten years.
 
The police recently tore apart a house and dug up an empty lot for this case. The police were not idle.
After all, everybody knows that performing actions which didn't actually do anything to solve the case are just as good as not ignoring numerous highly suspicious events from the same address. :crazyeye:

Modal morning quarterbacking these things is a natural reaction but real investigations are not like TV. There are no guarantees no matter how competently or hard you work on them.
"Modal morning quarterbacking"?
 
Alot of depressing things in the news lately.
 
For 19 months, Louwana Miller refused to give up hope that her missing daughter might still be alive.

Not anymore.

Desperate for any clue as to Amanda Berry’s whereabouts, and tired of unanswered questions from authorities, Miller turned to a psychic on Montel Williams’ nationally syndicated television show.

The psychic said what the FBI, police and Miller hadn’t.

“She’s not alive, honey,” Sylvia Browne told her matter-of-factly. “Your daughter’s not the kind who wouldn’t call.”

With those blunt words, Browne persuaded Miller to accept a grim probability that has become more likely with each passing day.

Miller went back to the West Side home where she had been keeping Amanda’s things in careful order and cleaned up. She gave away her daughter’s computer and took down her pictures. “I’m not even buying my baby a Christmas present this year,” she said.

Miller said she returned devastated from the show, taped this month in New York.

“I lost it,” she said.

Miller said she believes “98 percent” in Browne.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/amanda_berry_is_dead_psychic_t.html
 
Shock as people realise psychics exploit people's vulnerabilities.

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One of those calls to the police was revealed to have never happened (the caller's sister admitted the caller didn't call the police but instead called their mother because she didn't know what to do, and the mother failed to call the police as well).

This house had tarps outside to block the view of the yard. Another case had tarps all over the yard as well. If your neighbor has tarps in his yard I'd be highly suspicious, but legally, there are limitations on what you can do about it to see if there is anything illegal going on.

After all, everybody knows that performing actions which didn't actually do anything to solve the case are just as good as not ignoring numerous highly suspicious events from the same address. :crazyeye:

"Modal morning quarterbacking"?

If someone calls the police and says they saw something suspicious at your house, the police knock on the door and nobody is home, would you want the police busting down your door? For this case we need to know what was actually seen, how it was reported to police, etc. before blaming the police. If the cops busted down the doors of an innocent homeowner there would be hell to pay. If the cops didn't check the empty lot where an anonymous tipster told them to look for bodies, and later the body was found there, there would be hell to pay.

You can always say in hindsight "You should have done this, you should have looked here, you were wasting your time with this lead", but if they didn't check the empty lot, how would they know they are NOT there.

If they failed in properly checking an incident at this house, then yeah, go ahead and sue the hell out of city. But you can't blame them for looking at the empty lot and following other leads that turned up as dead ends.
 
If someone calls the police and says they saw something suspicious at your house, the police knock on the door and nobody is home, would you want the police busting down your door?
The real question is would I want them incessantly making absurd misrepresentations of my actual opinions. :lol:

There are numerous articles regarding the conduct of the police in this matter. It isn't "hindsight" to see that they should have better investigated some of these incidents. They had shopping bags over the windows, and now you have even pointed out they had tarps covering much of the backyard.

Officer.com: Cleveland Police Face Questions After Women Found

Rachel Maddow: Police engage mounting questions surrounding Cleveland abductions

Horror in Cleveland: Why the Warning Signs Went Ignored

Times of India: Kidnapping ordeal of 3 Ohio women went undetected for decade
 
After all, everybody knows that performing actions which didn't actually do anything to solve the case are just as good as not ignoring numerous highly suspicious events from the same address. :crazyeye:

What do you think, the police willfully ignored the Castro house because they wanted to waste time and money?
 
Yes, that is exactly what I think. Isn't it obvious from what I have posted here? :rolleyes:
 
I didnt see anything that would allow the police to bust down the door of the guys' house.

Women naked in the backyard? Is public nudity illegal?
A girl sees a women knocking on the window inside the house? Is that illegal?
There was also something mentioned about the guy coming home with a lot of food from McDonalds. Is that illegal?

I'd think the occupants are just a bunch of mentals. Nothing points to "three women being held captive for the last 10 years" and the SWAT team needs to be dispatched to bust down the door as there are some weird things going on.
 
You do realize that the police have different tactics at their disposal than calling in a SWAT team?

That in this particular case they apparently didn't even log a number of calls which police officers responded to complaints that were verified by those who called them?
 
Yes, that is exactly what I think. Isn't it obvious from what I have posted here? :rolleyes:

I'm just wondering what you're suggesting. That the police stupidly ignored signs pointing to that house? I agree. That the police neglected the case altogether? Disagree.
 
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