I haven't posted all that often, but am a long-time lurker. I've been disappointed that there hasn't been much discussion of civilization balance, power for various victory routes, primary strengths, etc. I always have loved the Tier Lists and the debates over the relative strengths of each civ. Now, of course, it is subjective and different playstyles and favored types of victory will affect peoples choices... So I've decided to (A) run a poll allowing people to vote for the four civs they find most powerful given their playstyle and victory types so that we can get a general sense of which civs are in the top tiers and (B) ask everyone to discuss this. Hopefully someone else can keep a nice tier list prepared and updated... NOTE: The poll had to exclude 6 civs because of the number of options available. I excluded Aztec and Korea for being clearly OP and top tier to the point of being ridiculous. I excluded Rome and Arabia because I get the sense that most consider them at least near the top tier. I excluded Norway for what seems to be a universal belief that it is bottom tier, or at least close... and I excluded England because of continued nerfs that have left poor Victoria near the bottom. We should of course consider those civs to. For my part I voted for Persia, Cree, Greek - Pericles and Russia.