Tim01 finished in a conquest loss due to an overwhelming dogpile. First, some copy and pasting: Version: C3C 1.22f Difficulty: Demigod Civilization: America Size: standard Landmass: 60% continents Barbarians: random Climate: random Temperature: random Age: random All victory conditions enabled, but only diplomatic will be considered successful Rest is normal Here is the variant, copied from Arathorn's variant list: Roster: Pied Piper tomasjj Whomp skunk TimBentley The roster is full as long as everyone wants to play again. A few things have been learned from the first attempt. Razed cities are bad. If a city is likely to be razed, we should abandon it or give it away. We should prepare for a possible AW, including three-tile spacing. With the potential of wars, we should make sure we keep our reputation secure. I would advise against water trading prior to the discovery of astronomy. I also decided to go for standard to reduce the number of potential enemies. I'll get around to rolling a few starts soon.