Tipping for Takeout

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Sometimes I feel obliged to tip when I order takeout. However, with the advent of paypoint tip screens, I am revolting against automatically tipping for takeout. If someone goes out of their way to help me or give me something special or extra then fine a tip is in order, but for just putting food in a bag and taking my money? Nope. Am I a cheapskate or being unreasonable? I think one of the places I get take out from is a bit resentful at me for my practice lol. I have not gone back because of it. Im talking about restaurants not fast food.
 
Mall food court places expecting tips are doomed to disappointment in my case. Putting food in a container and handing it to me isn't anything more than their basic job, and unless they've done something extra, I don't see the point of tipping.

If you've placed a carryout order and are picking it up yourself, again, I don't see the point of tipping. It's not like anyone had to travel to get it to you.
 
We don't use food delivery services, but frequently order and go pick up pick up our order. In both cases we tip. $2 for a pizza pick up and 20% a lunch meal. For us all the sources are locally owned business which we are happy to support. When we do eat out, we tip at least 20%.
 
I only tip for takeout if it's a place that makes custom made stuff that takes effort like I'll tip at a good hoagie shop for example or a bakery but rarely elsewhere. Delivery gets 10% and dine-in is 20% though.
 
Interesting topic as I've had some bad experiences lately. I always tip nicely, ofc, with any delivery orders. However, a local (regional) pizza place that I've been ordering from for about 20 years has started to get on my nerves. I used to order delivery mostly, but in recent years with the rising and exorbitant delivery fees, I mostly pickup up food from stores. I've been doing this for years. I order and pay from apps and go pickup. I stop by the store and they hand me my food - quick, easy, painless. However, recently that shop has been printing out receipts for me to sign. Absolutely unnecessary step and the clear motivation of the staff, who appear to be newer, is to have me add a tip to the receipt. I confronted them about this as well, though did not explicitly bring up the tip aspect.

Like others, I will tip for take-out in certain situations like going out of their way to help or, as in some cases, they just know me so well and I them, so I want to do something special. I have a few shops that I frequent regularly, like Potbelly, and they often do nice things for me and greet me warmly, or fulfill me requests. For example, I ordered soup yesterday and asked for the extra oyster crackers there - I love them - I'd be fine with one extra pack but last night they like filled up my bag with oyster crackers lol. But I refuse to have tipping forced on me like this local pizza place has started doing - it is the only place the remotely does this.

thank you..ha..I think I needed to vent

By the way, if you frequent certain places that have their own app, use it to order or scan at the store. Often, especially larger chains, have reward programs which really pay off.
 
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You're probably going to get a very different reaction depending on what side of the North Atlantic people are posting from.

Tipping isn't super-common here, though most chains are adding gratuity notices to their payment software / hardware. Third-party takeout services (like Just Eat) are a big driver, I'm guessing, similar to Uber, and all these other for-profit enterprises that pay their workers jack-all. If I thought or knew it was going to the actual people doing the delivery (or even the actual work at the place I'm ordering from), I wouldn't mind.

As it is, given how expensive takeout seems to be getting in the UK (significant YoY increases for the past few years), I'm paying enough for the meal itself. I'll spend more when I'm on-location, which can be the case since Covid (more restaurant-style places have stayed on delivery, some pubs too).
 
East side of the ocean here.

No never. It isn't customary nor expected. I pay electronically at the moment of ordering online and there often even isn't a tipping option.
I'm not looking for it so I'd might have overlooked it though.

That said, I usually go to the collect it myself instead of it being delivered.
 
Interesting topic as I've had some bad experiences lately. I always tip nicely, ofc, with any delivery orders. However, a local (regional) pizza place that I've been ordering from for about 20 years has started to get on my nerves. I used to order delivery mostly, but in recent years with the rising and exorbitant delivery fees, I mostly pickup up food from stores. I've been doing this for years. I order and pay from apps and go pickup. I stop by the store and they hand me my food - quick, easy, painless. However, recently that shop has been printing out receipts for me to sign. Absolutely unnecessary step and the clear motivation of the staff, who appear to be newer, is to have me add a tip to the receipt. I confronted them about this as well, though did not explicitly bring up the tip aspect.

Like others, I will tip for take-out in certain situations like going out of their way to help or, as in some cases, they just know me so well and I them, so I want to do something special. I have a few shops that I frequent regularly, like Potbelly, and they often do nice things for me and greet me warmly, or fulfill me requests. For example, I ordered soup yesterday and asked for the extra oyster crackers there - I love them - I'd be fine with one extra pack but last night they like filled up my bag with oyster crackers lol. But I refuse to have tipping forced on me like this local pizza place has started doing - it is the only place the remotely does this.

thank you..ha..I think I needed to vent

By the way, if you frequent certain places that have their own app, use it to order or scan at the store. Often, especially larger chains, have reward programs which really pay off.
I can't fathom signing anything at a takeout place unless it's to resolve a problem. And even then I don't think I've ever been asked to sign anything.

There was one time a few years ago when I ordered a pizza and it arrived completely uncut. Since I don't own a pizza cutter (or at least not one I remember having), I figured this was something that merited a call to the restaurant and a "you've inconvenienced me; please be more careful in future".

I wasn't asking for a refund or replacement pizza, but they offered a free one for my next order. So I said thank you very much, I appreciate that, and they made a note on my file (I'm part of the Dominos loyalty program; every 60 points means I get a free medium 2-topping pizza, 40 points means I'd get a free bread order, and 20 points means free pop; I always hold out for the pizza because I eat 2 or 3 slices and freeze the rest for later).

The delivery drivers get tipped unless they're really late or they're rude in some way.
 
I would never tip for pizza tbh.
After years and years of experience i can bake them so they are usually better than deliveries.
And i know the cost..around 2 euro estimated for a large one, cos you only use a small portion of everything (cheese, tomato sauce etc).
Since they charge ~5x the amount of that for a delivered pizza, i would say they already get enuf money.
 
I used to make homemade pizzas. However, that was a long time ago. Couldn't now anyway, since I don't have a stove.
 
I would never tip for pizza tbh.
After years and years of experience i can bake them so they are usually better than deliveries.
And i know the cost..around 2 euro estimated for a large one, cos you only use a small portion of everything (cheese, tomato sauce etc).
Since they charge ~5x the amount of that for a delivered pizza, i would say they already get enuf money.
yeah..i haven't done pizza delivery in many years and don't like the chains anyway. But this local place makes the best pizza around..so good..and they have great specials for really cheap pies that I will pick up...maybe get one every month or so.

As for me making a pizza, that would be a disaster :D
 
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I tip for sit-down service or delivery since it's custom here, but really businesses should just pay folks a living wage.
 
in usa, i (would) always tip anyone that doesn't make actual minimum wage; in europe, i simply don't
 
As for me making a pizza, that would be a disaster :D
There are kits you can buy that come with the dough (add water, work it up yourself, and use a cookie sheet) and a can of sauce. What you put on it for toppings is up to you. If using a cookie sheet isn't an option, I tried making little individual pizzas in a muffin tin. They didn't look elegant, but they tasted okay and that's what matters.

I once had a party (Star Trek club and gamers) and we had homemade pizza. One person had to have cheeseless. Another wanted extra cheese. I don't remember who didn't want meat.

Somehow I made it work, and I think I may have used kiwifruit as one of the toppings for the meatless one. A very important thing to remember when using fruit as a topping is to make sure it's well-drained. Otherwise the dough will get soggy.

Some of the toppings we'd use included pepperoni, pineapple, mozzarella, mushrooms, shrimp, mandarin oranges, parmesan, Beep juice pulp (Beep juice was a citrusy kind of breakfast drink similar to orange juice but not quite; I don't think it's available anymore), and I'm probably forgetting a few. No, I did not put all of these on the same pizza.

I have a few slices thawing in the fridge right now, as a reward for my first day of this year's NaNoWriMo. The toppings are sausage, tomato, mushroom, and black olives.
 
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Valka D'Ur: pineapple on pizza ?? -> that 'll spark a discussion...​

Yes, I know Takhisis thinks it's the worst abomination anyone can commit. Been there, done that, we've had something like a dozen threads about it over the past nearly 20 years (dunno how many happened before I joined).

It's still one of the basic, popular varieties of pizza in Canada. I haven't had it in years, though. After discovering how much I enjoy tomatoes, that's my go-to for a fruit kind of topping.

What I don't understand is why so many people hate pineapple on pizza. Especially people who have never actually tried it.
 
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Valka D'Ur: pineapple on pizza ?? -> that 'll spark a discussion...​

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These days everyone from your drug dealer to the local street corner panhandler ask for tips. The excuse seems to be that the machine "does that by default" and "management won't let us change it". Of course, as always, this only applies to North America (minus Mexico) and touristy parts of other select few countries who have been unfortunate enough to fall prey to this backwards American custom.

A tip is an optional payment for an especially well performed service from a service industry standpoint. I only tip for the following services, as this is how the custom was explained to me and drilled into my head when I first set foot on this continent:

A A waiter or waitress brings a meal to my table and looks after me while I eat my meal, including re-filling my water and being timely.
B A delivery person delivers my food to my doorstep
C A haircut person cuts my hair and chit chats pleasantries with me if I choose to engage in them.
D A bartender serves me a beer or another drink at a bar.
E A taxi driver drives me from point A to point B.
F A woman undresses on stage

My standard tip for A is 18-22%, before tax, for B 10-15% before tax, for C 10-20% before tax, for D $2-$3 for the first drink and 15% before tax afterwards, for E 10% before tax. F gets a reasonable amount dollar bills of course. This all depends on the quality of the service and how good everything goes. I have been known to step outside of these arbitrary ranges, but don't think there's ever been a case where I haven't tipped anything at all for A. Also keep in mind that where I live our waitstaff make the exact same amount as all other minimum wage jobs - there is no special lower wage such as in American states where they make $3/hr or some similar absurd amount.

I do not tip for pickup service since there is no service industry type service performed. Unless I get a previously agreed upon warm reacharound as part of my food order, there will be no tip. Why would there be? I will not be told what to do by a machine with no emotions or free will. We all know what tipping etiquette is, why are we being swayed by cheap business owners who can't be bothered to pay their employees a living wage?

And why do Americans think it's perfectly reasonable etiquette to tip 20% by default whether the employee behind the service makes $3 an hour or $15 an hour? Surely tipping standards in states where service staff make barely anything should be a lot higher than something like California. If your default tip is 20% in California, shouldn't it be 50-60% in Mississippi, where the poor wait staff make a measly $2.15 an hour? Is that even right?? The internet tells me it's right, but I refuse to believe it. Assuming it's right, how do these tipping standards make any sense whatsoever? Heck, even if someone is making $5 an hour, if you tip 20% in Cali, you should be tipping that $5/hr earner at least 40%. And why are we talking percentages anyway and not set dollar amounts? None of this makes any sense.. yet people will tell you with a straight face that it does.

I make an exception for locally owned businesses that I frequent on a somewhat regular basis. I figure I can spare to throw them a couple bucks here and there in order to support them beyond what is expected. And if I take a liking to you and we end up having good chemistry and I enjoy our time together enough, your tip % might very well go up.

Another trick the man has been playing on us is presenting these "tipping suggestions" on the post-tax amount. Tipping should be done on the pre-tax amount. Here in Ontario, Canada, we pay a 13% sales tax. If your bill comes to $50 before tax and you want to tip 20%, your grand total should come out to $66.5. However, the machine will tell you that a 20% tip would lead to you paying a total of $67.8. In this scenario, instead of tipping 20%, you are actually tipping closer to 21.6%. If you actually wanted to tip 20%, you'd have entered some % between 18 and 19. It might not seem like a huge difference, but many people have minute tipping standards, where a 22% tip is a job very well done, while 20% is a job done reasonably enough, and 18% is something slightly worse than that.

In the end, no, you shouldn't be tipping for picking up your own food, unless you really want to because you have some special relationship with the establishment (i.e. it's a locally owned store you visit once a week) but many people will, because they have weak wills and are easier to manipulate.
 
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These days everyone from your drug dealer to the local street corner panhandler ask for tips. The excuse seems to be that the machine "does that by default" and "management won't let us change it". Of course, as always, this only applies to North America (minus Mexico) and touristy parts of other select few countries who have been unfortunate enough to fall prey to this backwards American custom.

A tip is an optional payment for an especially well performed service from a service industry standpoint. I only tip for the following services, as this is how the custom was explained to me and drilled into my head when I first set foot on this continent:

A A waiter or waitress brings a meal to my table and looks after me while I eat my meal, including re-filling my water and being timely.
B A delivery person delivers my food to my doorstep
C A haircut person cuts my hair and chit chats pleasantries with me if I choose to engage in them.
D A bartender serves me a beer or another drink at a bar.
E A taxi driver drives me from point A to point B.
F A woman undresses on stage

My standard tip for A is 18-22%, before tax, for B 10-15% before tax, for C 10-20% before tax, for D $2-$3 for the first drink and 15% before tax afterwards, for E 10% before tax. F gets a reasonable amount dollar bills of course. This all depends on the quality of the service and how good everything goes. I have been known to step outside of these arbitrary ranges, but don't think there's ever been a case where I haven't tipped anything at all for A. Also keep in mind that where I live our waitstaff make the exact same amount as all other minimum wage jobs - there is no special lower wage such as in American states where they make $3/hr or some similar absurd amount.

I do not tip for pickup service since there is no service industry type service performed. Unless I get a previously agreed upon warm reacharound as part of my food order, there will be no tip. Why would there be? I will not be told what to do by a machine with no emotions or free will. We all know what tipping etiquette is, why are we being swayed by cheap business owners who can't be bothered to pay their employees a living wage?

And why do Americans think it's perfectly reasonable etiquette to tip 20% by default whether the employee behind the service makes $3 an hour or $15 an hour? Surely tipping standards in states where service staff make barely anything should be a lot higher than something like California. If your default tip is 20% in California, shouldn't it be 50-60% in Mississippi, where the poor wait staff make a measly $2.15 an hour? Is that even right?? The internet tells me it's right, but I refuse to believe it. Assuming it's right, how do these tipping standards make any sense whatsoever? Heck, even if someone is making $5 an hour, if you tip 20% in Cali, you should be tipping that $5/hr earner at least 40%. And why are we talking percentages anyway and not set dollar amounts? None of this makes any sense.. yet people will tell you with a straight face that it does.

I make an exception for locally owned businesses that I frequent on a somewhat regular basis. I figure I can spare to throw them a couple bucks here and there in order to support them beyond what is expected. And if I take a liking to you and we end up having good chemistry and I enjoy our time together enough, your tip % might very well go up.

Another trick the man has been playing on us is presenting these "tipping suggestions" on the post-tax amount. Tipping should be done on the pre-tax amount. Here in Ontario, Canada, we pay a 13% sales tax. If your bill comes to $50 before tax and you want to tip 20%, your grand total should come out to $66.5. However, the machine will tell you that a 20% tip would lead to you paying a total of $67.8. In this scenario, instead of tipping 20%, you are actually tipping closer to 21.6%. If you actually wanted to tip 20%, you'd have entered some % between 18 and 19. It might not seem like a huge difference, but many people have minute tipping standards, where a 22% tip is a job very well done, while 20% is a job done reasonably enough, and 18% is something slightly worse than that.

In the end, no, you shouldn't be tipping for picking up your own food, unless you really want to because you have some special relationship with the establishment (i.e. it's a locally owned store you visit once a week) but many people will, because they have weak wills and are easier to manipulate.

How is it possible that you tip in dollar bills for F? Canada hasn't had dollar bills since 1987. :confused:
 
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