To be or not to be...a genocide

[Che Guava]

..and the pot begins to boil...

Turkey recalls ambassador to US


Ankara is recalling its ambassador to Washington for consultations amid anger at a vote in Congress labelling the mass killing of Armenians as genocide.

[...]

Turkey's foreign ministry said the ambassador would return to Turkey for a stay of "a week or 10 days".

"We are not withdrawing our ambassador," said ministry spokesman Levent Bilman.

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For Turkey's president, the US vote showed that some US politicians had "closed their ears to calls to be reasonable and once again sought to sacrifice big problems for small domestic political games".

"This unacceptable decision of the committee, like similar ones in the past, is not regarded by the Turkish people as valid or of any value," Mr Gul said late on Wednesday.

[...]

Earlier on Thursday, the son of murdered Turkish-Armenian writer Hrant Dink was found guilty by a Turkish court of insulting "Turkishness" along with another newspaper editor.

Arat Dink and Serkis Seropyan were convicted after printing Dink's arguments for describing the Ottoman-era killings as genocide.

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[ParkCungHee]

I think we need a non-binding resolution condemning the British treatment and ethnic clensing of the Boers in South Africa.

Can I get a big from everyone that supports this?

Frei Oranje-Vrystaat!

 

[Bill3000]

I think we need a non-binding resolution condemning the British treatment and ethnic clensing of the Boers in South Africa.

Can I get a big from everyone that supports this?

Hah, there's actually a more modern one than that; Britain ethnically cleansed an island in order to build a navy base and tried to keep it low enough that it wouldn't be considered ethnic cleansing by the UN. I believe that was in the 70s.

 

[Che Guava]

Hah, there's actually a more modern one than that; Britain ethnically cleansed an island in order to build a navy base and tried to keep it low enough that it wouldn't be considered ethnic cleansing by the UN. I believe that was in the 70s.

Good lord! Where was that? I'm not denying it, but jeez, that's pretty dang low...

 

[Irish Caesar]

I think we need a non-binding resolution condemning the British treatment and ethnic clensing of the Boers in South Africa.

Can I get a big from everyone that supports this?

And another big for condemning the actions of the UK gov't in An Gorta Mór, too!

 

[Bill3000]

Good lord! Where was that? I'm not denying it, but jeez, that's pretty dang low...

To be fair, it was only 2000 or so in an island in the middle of the pacific.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia

 

[warpus]

"This unacceptable decision of the committee, like similar ones in the past, is not regarded by the Turkish people as valid or of any value," Mr Gul said late on Wednesday.

Gul.. Dukat?

 

[luiz]

Dude, I'm fuggin Jewish. I was born in Rehovot, you know where that is? You got caught making ******** assumptions. Don't make it worse.

You got cought trying to "prove" that you know Hebrew by using an ultra simple line that can be translated freely in hundreds of websites. If that line proves your hebrew skills, I just proved to be a freakin' human encyclopedia as far as languages go.

I don't doubt that you are jewish, btw, I doubt that you know Hebrew because you don't strike me as the kind of guy who can master even one language decently.

The point I made two pages earlier still stands:

No it doesn't.

Here's how it breaks down: one Jewish American guy (me) in favor of the resolution. Nearly all the people from European countries, as far as I can see, in favor. The majority of the American posters: "Yawn."

Most european posters were also quite clear in stating that this resolution is a waste of time. Because it is.

You tried to imply that people only care about the WW2 Holocaust because of the jewish lobby, which is patently false since as I said the Jews were not even a very influent minority in WW2 and even so everyone got appalled.

I'm fuggin appalled and I'm glad that these same apathetic "As long as MY ancestors weren't mass-murdered, it's alright" types have at least been educated into displaying the proper level of horror over the Holocaust.

Nobody said anything along the lines of "as long as my ancestors weren't mass-murdered". Everyone understands that genocides are horrible, and virtually nobody outside of Turkey would deny the armenian genocide. It's just that they don't see a point in the US Congress legislating on the issue almost a century after it happened. And it's a non-binding resolution, that is, completely useless. It would be hyprocritical for the US to start any kind of sanctions against Turkey while still relating normally with China, a country that still officially worships a man responsible for a far greater and far bigger democide.

You somehow turned this into yet another pointless rant against Americans, Jews, whoever, because that's all you know how to do. Go listen to Green Day.

 

[Stewbert 08]

Everyone understands that genocides are horrible

Yeah, they're just fine with IGNORING a genocide because its victims are politically weak and the genocide-deniers have us by the balls foreign-policy wise. If you doubt that just go back and look at how Colin Powell begged Turkey for army basing in 2003.

I feel like throwing the word "appeasement" into this discussion.

*flees to exam practice*

^ the sound of 40 internet asses being whupped. Thread over.

 

[MobBoss]

^ the sound of 40 internet asses being whupped. Thread over.

Ah...but I think you greatly misunderstand exactly who is being appeased.