Tokugawa Civil Service Challenge
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Izuul
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I'm looking into that now. Its the same turn currently but with too much gold left in the bank. The issue if that you have to kill the slider for too many turns waiting for the GS. Any research done there just goes into Math and gets wasted.
Trying to find a solution.
Trying to find a solution.
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soundjata
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Yes bad micro on my last run. Now I can do T86 CS too (T67 academy.)
The Math bulb comes too late (half research math only)
One could trade half math for bronze working, which would give slightly earlier library / monasteries in Osaka...
Not gona try it though
The Math bulb comes too late (half research math only)
One could trade half math for bronze working, which would give slightly earlier library / monasteries in Osaka...
Not gona try it though
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Izuul
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Is the Buddhism spread just dumb luck? I got it immediately (very next turn) the first time, and then i loaded back off that save to try the Math bulb instead of the Academy. Now i restarted completely to try a slightly different approach and i can't get Buddhism in Kyoto. I don't think it makes a massive difference, but getting the extra 10% beakers earlier does help a little. It could potentially be the difference in shaving off one turn.
T94, tried working the silver mine instead of rice just to see if it was slower, and I guess it is. I went: Mining -> Pottery -> Writing -> Mysticism -> Meditation -> Agriculture (2000 BC, turn 50!) -> Priesthood -> CS. Got GS on T90 unfortunately.
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Izuul
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7 beakers short when i tried it!. Probably possible. Has the advantage of not relying on getting Buddhism in the capitol since you build settler after library instead of monastery.
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Izuul
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84..lucky reli spread for the Mycro Queen.
But i didn't manage the slider well, 5 gold too much that might have been 1 more turn
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Well done. More cottages and less specialists?
Fippy
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I did go for library & 2 scientists quickly.
Full math bulb was possible without banking too much gold while on CoL research.
The cottages on rice & green river at Kyoto were used after the bulb, exchange for rice farm + scientist for same food & beakers, but a little more after 10t cos of cottage growth.
Full math bulb was possible without banking too much gold while on CoL research.
The cottages on rice & green river at Kyoto were used after the bulb, exchange for rice farm + scientist for same food & beakers, but a little more after 10t cos of cottage growth.
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aitkensam
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This thread makes me miss following the old SGOTM series. You guys are all too good at this game!!
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I was set on skipping agriculture because a couple food wouldn't pay off the beaker cost in the timeframe. But that's half the point, the hurdle creates the window for a math bulb.
Something tells me the district micro equivalent of this wouldn't be as interesting. That's why civ IV is great. If you want to just beeline to CS you could do so passably pretty quickly. But if you want to do it as fast as possible, there's a million divergent routes to consider. But then "micro" became a dirty word...... in a strategy game of all places
Sgotm was great..but at least we got Civ6&7 as replacement
Something tells me the district micro equivalent of this wouldn't be as interesting. That's why civ IV is great. If you want to just beeline to CS you could do so passably pretty quickly. But if you want to do it as fast as possible, there's a million divergent routes to consider. But then "micro" became a dirty word...... in a strategy game of all places
It's interesting how close different tech paths are.
With chopping I get T89 or so -- it loses lots of forests, but I get a granary in the capital.
I kept getting T87 doing Agriculture -> Pottery -> Mining.
Then I got T86 doing Agriculture -> Mining -> Pottery.
Then I got T85 by getting lucky with religion spread and bulbing math -- I had to delay research about half a turn but the bulb was slightly faster than academy if the timing was good.
Overall, the two cities that @soundjata posted was what I used. How Fippy got T84, I don't know...
With chopping I get T89 or so -- it loses lots of forests, but I get a granary in the capital.
I kept getting T87 doing Agriculture -> Pottery -> Mining.
Then I got T86 doing Agriculture -> Mining -> Pottery.
Then I got T85 by getting lucky with religion spread and bulbing math -- I had to delay research about half a turn but the bulb was slightly faster than academy if the timing was good.
Overall, the two cities that @soundjata posted was what I used. How Fippy got T84, I don't know...
