Torpedo Boat for VP

Padre XIX

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Torpedo Boat (Naval Raider Unitcombat) & Improved Units Icons
unlocks at Industrialization
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30:c5strength:CS
40:c5rangedstrength:CS (Range 1)
5:c5moves: Moves
Upgrades to Submarine
Req Resources - Aluminum

Free Promotions:
- Bonus vs Naval Ranged (25) (new)
- Patrol Ship (Half Movement in Ocean.+10% Combat Strength when defending in Coastal Tiles. ) - (new)
- Silent Hunter
- Only Defensive
- Can Move After Attacking
- Major City Attack Penalty

Other Changes:
See Invisible promotion now req Navigator I, Navigator II, Imperialism or Treasure Fleet and give negative effect (lose 1 sight).
Renamed Unitcombat Submarine to "Naval Raider Units";
Renamed Silent Hunter, Invisible and See Invisible Promotions to Torpedo Attack, Silent Hunter and respectively Sonar.

Naval Raider Promotion lines:
Torpedo I => Torpedo II => Torpedo III
Navigator I => Navigator II

Leaf promotions:
T1 (req Torpedo II)
Commerce Raider
Hunter Killer
Interdictor (+50% CS when attacking Embarked Units)

T2(req Torpedo III)
Predator
Infiltrators
Minelayer
End Around (Benefit from Flanking when ranged attacking Units.Force an enemy Unit to retreat after taking Ranged Damage. If the Unit cannot retreat, it takes 50% more damage than normal.)

Extra Promotions Line for Submarine:
Dive I => Dive II
(-3 Damage from all sources.Withdraw from Melee Attack)
(-3 Damage from all sources.Immune to the Boarded status.)
Supply => Wolfpack


More Other Changes:
Submarine Units gains 3x gold when it plunders a Trade Route.
Free Scavenger promotion for Submarine (5 XP when pillaging improvements)

New promotions for Naval Melee Units :
Convoy I (req Hull II and Tech Replaceable Parts) => Convoy II
(+10% CS VS Naval Raider Units. +15% CS if within 2 tiles of Owned Cargo Ship Unit)
(+15% CS VS Naval Raider Units. Convoy auras provide +10% more CS and gain +1 Radius.)

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V2
-Change some Icons
-Add free promotion for Torpedo Boat : Coast Guard (+15% Combat Strength when defending against Ranged Attacks. +10% Combat Strength when defending in Coastal Tiles.Lost on Upgrade);
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V3
- Fixed a bug where submarine units could not access the extra promotion line
-Fixed a bug where naval ranged units could not access the Supply promotion.
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V4
- Changed RCS 40 -----> 42
- Removed Shallow Draft from Free Promotions
-Coast Guard now - Half Movement in Ocean.+10% Combat Strength when defending in Coastal Tiles. Lost on Upgrade.
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V5
- Changed RCS 42 -----> 40
- Renamed Coast Guard to Patrol Ship
- Free "Naval Escort" promotion for late naval melee (+5% Combat Strength per Adjacent Owned Naval Ranged Unit.)
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V6
- Changed unit graphic and icon
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V7
- Changed unit icon ( ChatGPT )
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V8
- Changed unit icon for SensorCombatShip, Rocket Missile, Destroyer and Supercarrier. (more Civilization style)
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V9-Better unit icons for SensorCombatShip, Torpedo Boat, Destroyer and Supercarrier. (almost same as Civilization style)
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V10
- Changed unit icon for Liburna
- Some errors related to icon graphics have been fixed. It looks much better now
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V11
- Changed the unit icon for Missiles and Submarines
- Changed unit icon for Dreadnought
- The previous icons have been improved
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V12
- Improved units icons
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V13
Icons for all modern ships completed
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V14
- Changed the unit icon for Ironclad and Cruiser
- Reworked unit icon for Battleship, Dreadnought and Liburna
 

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V2
-Change some Icons
-Add free promotion for Torpedo Boat : Coast Guard (+15% Combat Strength when defending against Ranged Attacks. +10% Combat Strength when defending in Coastal Tiles.Lost on Upgrade);
 
What a good idea!
Which icon is used for this guy, could you add it to the OP?

I'm playing with a change to the Minelayer Promotion, but I should definitely include UNITCLASS_SUBMARINE in that!
Spoiler :
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  Mine Field<br>    Overly niche to the extent I rarely both, especially if im on the offensive<br>  -- +2 Science<br>  -- +15 XP for Sea Units<br>  -- Naval Melee Units from this City get the Minelayer promotion<br>  -- Minelayer promotion no longer chosen, and no downside
 
What a good idea!
Which icon is used for this guy, could you add it to the OP?

I'm playing with a change to the Minelayer Promotion, but I should definitely include UNITCLASS_SUBMARINE in that!
Ironclad Confederacy from the American Civil War scenario.
 
V3
- Fixed a bug where submarine units could not access the extra promotion line
-Fixed a bug where naval ranged units could not access the Supply promotion.
 
V4
- Changed RCS 40 -----> 42
- Removed Shallow Draft from Free Promotions
-Coast Guard now - Half Movement in Ocean.+10% Combat Strength when defending in Coastal Tiles. Lost on Upgrade.

Sorry for these frequent updates but I'm trying to find the perfect (almost) balance for this new unit.
 
Any thoughts on a gunboat-type line? Shallow draft, good for coastal defense, maybe stationing them in city-state borders would slow down loss of influence. Also thinking of lines of weaker coastal units that would be the only naval units city-states could make. Corvettes instead of destroyers, coastal submarines, etc. And, of course, earlier types of units, Basically whole coastal unit lines.
 
Right, if you came up with something for late renaissance then you could have Liburna->Galleass->????->Torpedo->Submarine->etc. as the line.
Frigate would then be the "new" unitclass.

Not sure that's to be preferred over what we currently have but it's interesting to think about.
 
V5
- Changed RCS 42 -----> 40
- Renamed Coast Guard to Patrol Ship
- Free "Naval Escort" promotion for late naval melee (+5% Combat Strength per Adjacent Owned Naval Ranged Unit.)
 
SensorCombatShip
Rocket Missile
Destroyer
Supercarrier



V8
- Changed unit icon for SensorCombatShip, Rocket Missile, Destroyer and Supercarrier. (more Civilization style)
 
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V9-Better unit icons for SensorCombatShip, Torpedo Boat, Destroyer and Supercarrier. (almost same as Civilization style)
 
Did you make the icons? Maybe we can use these for base VP.
 
Did you make the icons? Maybe we can use these for base VP.
The icons are made by me with the help of AI.
If you like the icons, I could make them for any other units as needed.
I will send you improved icon atlas and png files later today
 
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Liburna
Sensor Combat Ship
Supercarrier
Rocket Missile
Torpedo Boat
Destroyer

V10
- Changed unit icon for Liburna
- Some errors related to icon graphics have been fixed. It looks much better now.
 
Some of the icons are really nice!
Not sure about the missiles, they all look kinda the same. The previous rocket missile was good (maybe remove German decal)
The Liburna looks like a longboat with those shields.
The two submarines in the bottom right are almost the same, are these two different units?
 
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