I know theres a sub-forum but no ones ever on it. I'm thinking of getting the game and wanted to ask a few questions. I got HoI2 recently and was dissappointed in it, I (wrongly) assumed that its wasnt practically 100% focused on war, I thought5 form the Wiki entry it was quite similar to civ re: Diplomacy and economy, but I found it to be a simple race to produce the most units. Before I by any total war title could people tell me, is the turn based part of the game central, would it even take up say 40% of the time playing, how important is diplomacy etc? Is it a race to produce units or is it more in depth like civ? what I really want is Civ 5 but at the earliest thats at least a year away, so out of all the games availible, would total war be closest?