Tourist-spotting, visitors from (seemingly) other worlds, etc.

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From another forum: "How do you spot an American tourist 'from a mile away'?"

Let's see how I stack up...

"They act so amazed by things that are more than 200 years old, presumably because they don't have many things that old in the USA.": ✅ I'm a history nerd, so I seek that stuff out when I'm traveling. But still, I bet a lot of Americans go to places like Europe in part to see old stuff.

"You can hear them in museums when everyone else is extra silent." ❌ I'm pretty good when I'm in museums and cathedrals and so on.

"They're constantly wearing their college t-shirt, sweater or cap." ❌ Don't even own one.

"Tipping. Americans will try to tip everyone, even in countries where tipping isn't a thing and can even be considered insulting." ✅ Is it considered insulting in some places? I'll have to be more careful to research the customs about tipping, I guess.

"Asking for the bathroom in a restaurant or public place. Do you need to take a shower? No. What you're really looking for is the toilet." ✅ One of the things I noticed when visiting someone in France for the first time was the separate toilet and shower. I wish American homes had that.

"They are the first to take their shoes off at airport security...even when there is a sign blatantly saying not to remove your shoes." ❌ That's weird.

"When Americans introduce themselves they never say they're from the US. They always start with the state or city they are from." ✅ I've noticed people around the world don't quite understand how we view ourselves. In certain ways, people from other places might be better off thinking of the United States as a union of nations. When Europeans are asked where they're from, do they say "Europe"? There's a really sinister scene in Civil War (2024) that plays on this a little bit. Jesse Plemons' line delivery is super-creepy. "Okay. But what kind of American are you?"

"They say 'hi, how are you?' and make conversation with the barista, restaurant servers, retail workers, etc..." ✅ Just trying to be friendly, I guess. And I'm from the Northeast, where we're notoriously aloof.

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"They are absolutely fearless when it comes to asking any random person on the street about anything. I've watched Americans approach people in my home country and abroad starting conversations with strangers that I wouldn't dream of." ✅ And we're not afraid to ask a rando on the street whether they speak English. I've had Americans come up to me in other countries, asking whether I speak English and trying to get directions somewhere.

"They're always asking for extra ice in their drinks." ✅ American tourists actually have to be specifically warned about this, because the tap water in some countries isn't always safe. You can ask for bottled water, but ice usually isn't made from bottled water.

"They ask for cheese on everything." ✅ Well, maybe not everything...

"They ask for to-go coffee cups. Everyone else in Europe sits and drinks their coffee, but Americans always seem to be in a rush so they take their coffee to go." ✅ I own five 'travel mugs.'

"They assume stores stay open late or 24/7, even in European countries where most stores close by 7 pm." ✅ I don't expect places to be open 24/7, but yeah, the business hours in some places have caught me off-guard before.

"They have impeccable facial hair. Maybe Americans get a trim before they go on holiday, but I'm always impressed by the tidy beards and mustaches." ✅ I do try not to dress 'like an American tourist' when I'm traveling, but this comment made me laugh. One stereotype of foreign visitors here is that they always seem over-dressed, over-coiffed, and they wear too much cologne. It's commonly said in my city that you can spot the European and Middle-Eastern college students on campus, because they look like they're dressed to go out clubbing later, at 9:00am on a Wednesday.

"For some reason Americans abroad dress like they're doing some hard core exploring in the Amazon...even when they're just visiting a European city." ❌ I'm not sure what this means, so I guess I can't rule out that I meet this stereotype, but when I'm traveling, I dress like I always dress.

"They wear white socks pulled all the way up." ❌ [Heck], no.

"When they cross the street, they expect cars to stop for them. In my country, a car will run you down without the driver thinking twice." ✅ I almost got hit by a car in London.The light changed when I was halfway across the street, and the guy started moving. Brushed my legs with the front of his car, made me jump out of the way. If he'd indulged me, I'd have happily started a fist-fight with him. Conversely, I remember seeing a French tourist hustling his family across a street here, saying "vite, vite" like they were under fire and thinking, "dude, relax, you're on vacation."

"They ask for ketchup no matter what they're eating." ✅ I'm not a maniac for ketchup, but if this can be extended to condiments more broadly... I'm a big hot sauce guy, myself.

"Everyone else is freezing outside and then there's that American walking around in shorts as if it's nothing." ✅ 45F/7C is my 'comfort zone.' I don't say 'it's cold out there' until it's down to about 20F/-6C. Canadians know what I'm talkin' 'bout. Everybody else is a wimp.

"They pronounce things horribly and make zero attempt to say it correctly." ✅ I made a good-faith effort when I was in France, but I definitely heard Americans who made me want to hide my face. I remember a guy ordering "juice duh orange" in a cafe. I almost died. Of course it said jus d'orange on the menu, so I guess he was just trying to pronounce it phonetically, in his American accent. Don't get me wrong, my pronunciation wasn't good either, but I was still leagues ahead of some of the Americans I met in France.

"They complain that the portions at restaurants are too small." ❌ I actually think the rest of the world is much more sane, in this regard. I hate being left with a quarter-plate of food at a restaurant, not wanting to throw it away, but not wanting to take it with me, either.

"Quite often on the heavy side weight-wise (sorry!)" ✅ When I was in Europe, I was suddenly fat. When I was in Asia, I was suddenly tall & fat.

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How do you spot tourists in your country, American or otherwise? Amusing? Endearing? Aggravating? Do you live up or down to any of the stereotypes when you're traveling? I hear the residents of Amsterdam are about ready to declare war on English lads. Perhaps a home-and-away is in order, loser leaves town for 90 days. (I'd watch that.)
 
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I've seen the rocks of the Zimbabwe craton, that formed before the sky turned blue, before the first creature swam in the oceans or the first plants grew on land. Next to that, some church in Europe is supposed to impress me with its antiquity?

How do you spot tourists in your country, American or otherwise? Amusing? Endearing? Aggravating? Do you live up or down to any of the stereotypes when you're traveling? I hear the residents of Amsterdam are about ready to declare war on English lads. Perhaps a home-and-away is in order, loser leaves town for 90 days. (I'd watch that.)

Tourists in DC are easy to spot, they have no idea how to take the subway.
 
From another forum: "How do you spot an American tourist 'from a mile away'?"

Let's see how I stack up...

"They act so amazed by things that are more than 200 years old, presumably because they don't have many things that old in the USA.": ✅ I'm a history nerd, so I seek that stuff out when I'm traveling. But still, I bet a lot of Americans go to places like Europe in part to see old stuff.

"You can hear them in museums when everyone else is extra silent." ❌ I'm pretty good when I'm in museums and cathedrals and so on.

"They're constantly wearing their college t-shirt, sweater or cap." ❌ Don't even own one.

"Tipping. Americans will try to tip everyone, even in countries where tipping isn't a thing and can even be considered insulting." ✅ Is it considered insulting in some places? I'll have to be more careful to research the customs about tipping, I guess.

"Asking for the bathroom in a restaurant or public place. Do you need to take a shower? No. What you're really looking for is the toilet." ✅ One of the things I noticed when visiting someone in France for the first time was the separate toilet and shower. I wish American homes had that.

"They are the first to take their shoes off at airport security...even when there is a sign blatantly saying not to remove your shoes." ❌ That's weird.

"When Americans introduce themselves they never say they're from the US. They always start with the state or city they are from." ✅ I've noticed people around the world don't quite understand how we view ourselves. In certain ways, people from other places might be better off thinking of the United States as a union of nations. When Europeans are asked where they're from, do they say "Europe"? There's a really sinister scene in Civil War (2024) that plays on this a little bit. Jesse Plemons' line delivery is super-creepy. "Okay. But what kind of American are you?"

"They say 'hi, how are you?' and make conversation with the barista, restaurant servers, retail workers, etc..." ✅ Just trying to be friendly, I guess. And I'm from the Northeast, where we're notoriously aloof.

and

"They are absolutely fearless when it comes to asking any random person on the street about anything. I've watched Americans approach people in my home country and abroad starting conversations with strangers that I wouldn't dream of." ✅ And we're not afraid to ask a rando on the street whether they speak English. I've had Americans come up to me in other countries, asking whether I speak English and trying to get directions somewhere.

"They're always asking for extra ice in their drinks." ✅ American tourists actually have to be specifically warned about this, because the tap water in some countries isn't always safe. You can ask for bottled water, but ice usually isn't made from bottled water.

"They ask for cheese on everything." ✅ Well, maybe not everything...

"They ask for to-go coffee cups. Everyone else in Europe sits and drinks their coffee, but Americans always seem to be in a rush so they take their coffee to go." ✅ I own five 'travel mugs.'

"They assume stores stay open late or 24/7, even in European countries where most stores close by 7 pm." ✅ I don't expect places to be open 24/7, but yeah, the business hours in some places have caught me off-guard before.

"They have impeccable facial hair. Maybe Americans get a trim before they go on holiday, but I'm always impressed by the tidy beards and mustaches." ✅ I do try not to dress 'like an American tourist' when I'm traveling, but this comment made me laugh. One stereotype of foreign visitors here is that they always seem over-dressed, over-coiffed, and they wear too much cologne. It's commonly said in my city that you can spot the European and Middle-Eastern college students on campus, because they look like they're dressed to go out clubbing later, at 9:00am on a Wednesday.

"For some reason Americans abroad dress like they're doing some hard core exploring in the Amazon...even when they're just visiting a European city." ❌ I'm not sure what this means, so I guess I can't rule out that I meet this stereotype, but when I'm traveling, I dress like I always dress.

"They wear white socks pulled all the way up." ❌ [Heck], no.

"When they cross the street, they expect cars to stop for them. In my country, a car will run you down without the driver thinking twice." ✅ I almost got hit by a car in London.The light changed when I was halfway across the street, and the guy started moving. Brushed my legs with the front of his car, made me jump out of the way. If he'd indulged me, I'd have happily started a fist-fight with him. Conversely, I remember seeing a French tourist hustling his family across a street here, saying "vite, vite" like they were under fire and thinking, "dude, relax, you're on vacation."

"They ask for ketchup no matter what they're eating." ✅ I'm not a maniac for ketchup, but if this can be extended to condiments more broadly... I'm a big hot sauce guy, myself.

"Everyone else is freezing outside and then there's that American walking around in shorts as if it's nothing." ✅ 45F/7C is my 'comfort zone.' I don't say 'it's cold out there' until it's down to about 20F/-6C. Canadians know what I'm talkin' 'bout. Everybody else is a wimp.

"They pronounce things horribly and make zero attempt to say it correctly." ✅ I made a good-faith effort when I was in France, but I definitely heard Americans who made me want to hide my face. I remember a guy ordering "juice duh orange" in a cafe. I almost died. Of course it said jus d'orange on the menu, so I guess he was just trying to pronounce it phonetically, in his American accent. Don't get me wrong, my pronunciation wasn't good either, but I was still leagues ahead of some of the Americans I met in France.

"They complain that the portions at restaurants are too small." ❌ I actually think the rest of the world is much more sane, in this regard. I hate being left with a quarter-plate of food at a restaurant, not wanting to throw it away, but not wanting to take it with me, either.

"Quite often on the heavy side weight-wise (sorry!)" ✅ When I was in Europe, I was suddenly fat. When I was in Asia, I was suddenly tall & fat.

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How do you spot tourists in your country, American or otherwise? Amusing? Endearing? Aggravating? Do you live up or down to any of the stereotypes when you're traveling? I hear the residents of Amsterdam are about ready to declare war on English lads. Perhaps a home-and-away is in order, loser leaves town for 90 days. (I'd watch that.)
The only time you hear a foreign accent here and can reasonably assume it's a tourist is when it's some variety of American. Otherwise, assume it's a recently-immigrated person or refugee (we have a lot of Ukranians in the building now; a few years ago it was Syrians and a few from elsewhere in the Middle East).

They think it's cute to emphasize "eh". Only Americans do that, and it's REALLY ANNOYING. Or they emphasize "aboot." That's also REALLY ANNOYING. Most of us don't say "eh" and a boot is what you wear on your foot if you don't want to get your foot wet or dirty outside and it's too wet/dirty for shoes. A toque is a toque. It's not a "beanie."

They have no idea how to use money, particularly coins. Someone once wrote in to the "All in a Day's Work" humor column of the Canadian Reader's Digest to relate how someone was in a panic over not knowing how to count out 90 cents in change. She told them, 3 quarters, 1 dime, and a nickel. When they said they didn't know what that meant, she said, "3 caribou, a sailboat, and a beaver." I had a similar situation one time many years ago, when I worked at the wildlife sanctuary interpretive centre. A friend's father was visiting from England, wanted to buy something, and was confused about the coins.

They expect some cultural things to be year-round. Not kidding, there are some people who think the Calgary Stampede is a year-round event. A nice couple from Arizona whom I met in August one summer in BC (we were stopped on the highway due to a fatal traffic accident up ahead while the emergency services people investigated and cleaned up the aftermath) said they were going to Alberta later on and were really looking forward to the Calgary Stampede. I told them they were a bit late for that, as it had finished 3 weeks ago and they'd have to wait until July next year. "You mean it doesn't run year-round?" they asked in dismay. "We thought it did..." :(

I did not explain to them that it would be rather difficult to run pony chuckwagon races in -40C in the snow. Yes, Calgary's a lot milder in winter now, but the only time they made an exception was for the 1988 Olympics. They staged a mini-Stampede indoors, to accommodate the disappointed tourists who'd hoped to see it. In February.


I've noticed some of those stereotypes you mentioned when I'm watching the American version of The Amazing Race. Some of the racers just expect everyone around them to speak English, and get highly and loudly rude when that might not be the case (Phil Keoghan wasn't pleased about that; these racers have camera crews with them, so it's not like he doesn't know when things go wrong). In the season last year, there was one team who constantly screeched, "Out of towners! Out of towners!" wherever they went, as though that was supposed to make everyone around either jump to help them or get out of their way, or read their minds as to what they wanted... it was nice on my ears when they finally got Philiminated.

Tourists in DC are easy to spot, they have no idea how to take the subway.
Some of us have never had one to take, so of course we don't know how. Not that I've ever been anywhere that had one. I consider myself lucky to have been able to navigate Edmonton by transit and Calgary on the C-train. However, that was back in the 1980s, and I wouldn't be doing that now (particularly in Edmonton; it has a bad reputation these days for safety).
 
"When Americans introduce themselves they never say they're from the US. They always start with the state or city they are from." ✅ I've noticed people around the world don't quite understand how we view ourselves. In certain ways, people from other places might be better off thinking of the United States as a union of nations. When Europeans are asked where they're from, do they say "Europe"?
Other places have federations too, we know what federations are and how states work. It's just that, despite being federations of states too, Germans don't start off telling foreigners they're from Bavaria, Australians don't start with Victoria, Indians don't start with Maharashtra, etc.
 
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Other places have federations too, we know what federations are and how states work. It's just that, despite being federations of states too, Germans don't start off telling foreigners they're from Bavaria, Australians don't start with Victoria, Indians don't start with Maharashtra, etc.
I wasn't saying anything about federations, or how states work, or about Germans or Australians or Indians. I was relating something about Americans, based on the comment I cited (which I assume was written by someone who isn't an American, although I guess I don't know that for sure), and other, similar comments I've seen over the years. My point was that the United States is not Germany or Australia or India.
 
Americans expect everyone to know exactly where their city/state are. If I tell an American customer service agent that I'm from Alberta, they ask which state that's in. When I say it's a province in Canada, they assume I'm "overseas." I tell them I'm not, and they insist that Canada is "overseas."

I tell them I'm in the country north of them, and they get confused, as though it's news to them that there even is a country north of the U.S.
 
Some of us have never had one to take, so of course we don't know how.
I remember meeting an American in Paris who'd been there a couple of weeks, and she mentioned that she'd been taking taxis everywhere. I can't remember where she was from, but it was somewhere that doesn't have a subway, and nobody had shown her how to use the metro.
 
Stereotype of American tourists in Ireland:
They're actually dressed appropriately for the weather. Layers, rain jacket, rain poncho sometimes.
Irish people seem to just seem to hope for the best in summer and just accept it if we do get wet.
 
I wasn't saying anything about federations, or how states work, or about Germans or Australians or Indians. I was relating something about Americans, based on the comment I cited (which I assume was written by someone who isn't an American, although I guess I don't know that for sure), and other, similar comments I've seen over the years. My point was that the United States is not Germany or Australia or India.
Yeah that's the point - it's not about the primacy of local self-identification, or the uniqueness of having lots of second level political units, it's that nobody else outside the world's hegemonic core would generally assume foreigners know where or what Texbraska is.
 
Yeah that's the point - it's not about the primacy of local self-identification, or the uniqueness of having lots of second level political units, it's that nobody else outside the world's hegemonic core would generally assume foreigners know where or what Texbraska is.
Whatever, man. I start what I think is a light-hearted thread and of course somebody has to turn it into a [flipping] tussle. Enjoy your evening.
 
Foreign tourists use socks+sandals

"When Americans introduce themselves they never say they're from the US. They always start with the state or city they are from." I've noticed people around the world don't quite understand how we view ourselves. In certain ways, people from other places might be better off thinking of the United States as a union of nations. When Europeans are asked where they're from, do they say "Europe"? There's a really sinister scene in Civil War (2024) that plays on this a little bit. Jesse Plemons' line delivery is super-creepy. "Okay. But what kind of American are you?"

Most countries have strong regional identities, you still don't usually see non-Americans introducing themselves by their region (unless maybe they're from a world-famous city)
 
If you look at peoples' mouth muscle formation you can often surmise some things. French, Americans, and not French nor Americans are some pretty ready categories.
 
Most foreigners that I've met in China and Africa have no idea about particular states and see the US as a blob on a map. New Mexico means nothing to them. They know big cities better. I know enough about China that if a Chinese person says they are from Anhui or Hunan, that they are talking provinces. I may not be able to place all them in all the right places though. Many Europeans are much more familiar with US states so if I say NM, they can put that into some context.
 
Or they could be one of the bazillion travel vloggers who have YT channels these days. I watch several cruise channels (partly for research for my Merlin/Highlander fanfic since I plan to set part of the storyline on a cruise ship where mayhem will occur and the old Love Boat episodes aren't going to be good enough for reference material, and partly because these people go places I'll never get to see for myself).

The one I watched earlier today had Ben and David (married couple who make cruise videos and have a travel website for a living) spending a day and night on the new Queen Anne cruise ship. Cunard invited a bunch of travel agents and vloggers to spend a little time aboard to check out the cabins, the ship in general, and gather whatever information and footage they want for their reviews and clients. Ben and David are British and the ship was docked in Southampton - and never went anywhere for this travel agent/vlogger event. So while the guys were filming here and there, talking about the shops and restaurants and other stuff, they said we would just have to imagine the view outside the windows, since in reality it was a cold cloudy day and the only thing visible from the windows was the dock.
 
I think I own an umbrella, but I've probably used it maybe once, if at all. The problem with using a walker outside the apartment is that I need both hands to steer the thing. I don't have any left over for an umbrella, so I just wear my spring/summer/fall/warmer winter day all-purpose jacket that I bought over 30 years ago, and put the hood up. I might wear a cap as well if it's really pouring and I'm going to be out in it for longer than it takes to get to and from the handibus.


Here's the video I watched. Ben and David recently moved, so they had to drive from their home to the port. I got the impression that they were in a hurry to get on the ship, so the most they would have seen of Southampton would have been the route they took to the port and the docks that the ship never left. I have only a vague idea about geography in that part of the world, so I'm not even sure where Southampton is.


These two are real characters, with a generally cheerful, irreverent sense of humor, while still being professional with their reviews and observations. They did say they plan to go on a trans-Atlantic cruise in a few weeks on Cunard, so they're going to have to dress up a bit. Should be interesting. They travel with family members sometimes, and their nephew, Oscar, is a hoot.
 
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