Masquerouge
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Mmmm not really. The only coupes that go above 30MPG in the last 3 years are...the Insight and the Civic.
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Mmmm not really. The only coupes that go above 30MPG in the last 3 years are...the Insight and the Civic.
Masquerouge
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Well after looking at that only toyota and honda have cars that are get more then 30 MPG.
With small cars anyway. How does that make american cars bad? Wouldnt that make everyone besides toyota and honda bad.
Because we're looking at the US market only, silly
Xanikk999
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So then my Kia spectra gets less then 30 MPG?
The people at the dealership said it was practically the same as the honda civic except for the name "brand" that honda carries.
The people at the dealership said it was practically the same as the honda civic except for the name "brand" that honda carries.
Just FYI in case anyone wants to see them all, here is the PDF for the 2007 MPG ratings. It has all the cars sold in America (well, at least mass produced).
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/FEG2007.pdf
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/FEG2007.pdf
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The Kia Spectra has 30MPG average, 27 city, 35 highway. Not too shabby.
AL_DA_GREAT
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May the best car company win. honestly you americans seem afraid of a little competition.
Xanikk999
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Not really. Its just annoying when people say american cars are "bad" considering they are very similar to foriegn cars nowadays.
Its not the same as it was years ago.
Masquerouge
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This is actually more true that you may think. A lot of US industries have had the bad habit of being overprotected against foreign competitions, and are now in a hard spot because of that.
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Just for your information Al, the only Americans here are Agent and Xanikk.
It's still true though. You proved that yourself.
It's still true though. You proved that yourself.
From the 2006 guide:
Spectra ....................................... A-4..... 2.0/4 .. 25/34 .. $1,178
.................................................... M-5..... 2.0/4 .. 25/33 .. $1,178
I retract my previous statement about the 2007 guide having all the cars. IT looks to be less complete than the 2006 guide, so I guess they haven't got all the models in there yet.
EDIT: Regarding the competition, like I said I couldn't care less if GM gets knocked off #1 by a foreign company. Competition is good. I just think it is unfortunate that it may be to a company that makes inferior, flimsy feeling cars.
EDIT #2: Oops, Masq beat me to the Kia ratings. Fast moving thread!
Masquerouge
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And in your opinion, why do people all over the world buy more inferior, flimsy-feeling cars ?
Mechanical reliability probably. I admit American cars are slightly more prone to breaking down that Asian vehicles, but it's getting better.
Masquerouge
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Allright
Personnaly what I'm looking at when I'm buying a car is to spend the least amount of money possible over the longest period of time. That's why I buy used, small, asian cars
CaptainF
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Yay! No more POS American cars!
deo
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German cars are the best! 
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deo
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VW, especially the Touareg 
Are Toyota's really that flimsy ? I never owned one, so I can't comment on Toyota.
My last 2 cars have been Nissans, and the Maxima I had was certainly not flimsy. The Sentra SER I now own does feel a little flimsy, but it has much better performance and handling than the 3 American cars I had the displeasure of renting recently, the Cobalt, Focus, and Impala. The Cobalt felt even more flimsy than the SER (along with rattling all over the place), the Focus was just flat out slow, and Impala didn't have the acceleration or handling that my SER has (it was nice and quiet inside the car though). The high end models of those 3 American cars are also much more expensive than the SER. And to make up for the poor performance, the high end models are either V6's or turbo charged 4 cylinders. I could spend the difference in prices between my car and those cars, and buy and install a turbo, and put the performance of those cars to shame, for the same price.
My last 2 cars have been Nissans, and the Maxima I had was certainly not flimsy. The Sentra SER I now own does feel a little flimsy, but it has much better performance and handling than the 3 American cars I had the displeasure of renting recently, the Cobalt, Focus, and Impala. The Cobalt felt even more flimsy than the SER (along with rattling all over the place), the Focus was just flat out slow, and Impala didn't have the acceleration or handling that my SER has (it was nice and quiet inside the car though). The high end models of those 3 American cars are also much more expensive than the SER. And to make up for the poor performance, the high end models are either V6's or turbo charged 4 cylinders. I could spend the difference in prices between my car and those cars, and buy and install a turbo, and put the performance of those cars to shame, for the same price.
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