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[R&F] Trailer hints for R&F Civs: can the next one be Carthage?

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by dataswallow, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. Haig

    Haig Deity

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    I think the workers in trailer are building a canal + the Ed tweet where he checks out a canal for research purposes.

    No idea which civ it could represent... Venice?
     
  2. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    The trailer is chronological though.
    Assyria is a good fit for canals and pre-Rome, but terrain and people don't look too Assyrian. Sanherib wouldn't be the worst choice they could make, however. Quite the contrary.
     
  3. Cerilis

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    I'm with the crew believing the builder scene might be an inca hint or so.
     
  4. Shadole

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    Id prefer Phoenicia to Carthage for civ 6.
     
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  5. Cywil

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    Let's take a look at the metal bucket filled with water carried by the girl (in the second scene of the R&F trailer) which is probably an ancient vessel situla. Situlas in bronze are a distinctive feature of Etruscan art according to Wikipedia.
     
  6. liv

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    Etruscans. That would be something. Maybe it could be a hint for a Northern Italy of some kind

    For that trailer the first scene (girls sitting is Greek (we see Greek patterns) but when she walks outside it changes. Her outfit changes to a coarser material. It is like they did want to tell us something here.
    It could just be a clip for "builder" but .....
     
  7. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    Do we know of any Etruscan leaders? I thought their language was only partially understood.
     
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  8. ShallowSeas

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    perhaps, but sometimes a bucket is just a bucket.
     
  9. Ondolindë

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    This is an interesting post and subject matter instead of other two that seem to be going in circles and don’t add much, IMHO. So congrats for that.

    I also would like for that part of the trailer to be in relation to the Inca, but there isn’t much evidence to corroborate that. So, the idea that it could be related to Carthage is exciting as well considering @Cywil’s observation and the obvious relations between Garthage and Etruria as allies. I’d welcome and be happy if we get Carthage. I voted for them. I would welcome the Etruscan even. The Inca inclusion, however, is unaffected by this or any other evidence present or not in the trailer, of course. At, least in my mind and heart.
     
  10. Wielki Hegemon

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    :lol::lol::lol:
    Or even a bucket with a cold water in it :thumbsup:
     
  11. Ondolindë

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    This is what Wikipedia shows, but there’s not much detail that remained about them. The majority of their remaining writings are religious in nature.

    Rulers of Clusium
    • Osiniu fl. probably early 11th century BC
    • Lars Porsena fl. late 6th century BC
    • Aruns fl. c. 500 BC
    Rulers of Caere
    • Lausus
    • Larthia
    • Thefarie Velianas fl. c. late 6th century–early 4th century BC, known from his temple dedication recorded on the Pyrgi Tablets
    Rulers of Veii
    • Volumnius fl. mid 5th century–437 BC
    • Lars Tolumnius fl. late 5th century–428 BC
    Rulers of Arimnus
    • Arimnestos
    Etruscan kings of Rome
    Other Etruscan rulers
    • Mezentius fl. c. 1100 ? BC
    • Tyrsenos
    • Velsu fl. 8th century BC
     
  12. Cywil

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    And another quote from Wikipedia about Etruscan art: "The stonework is often of fine quality, sometimes using regular rectangular blocks in a rough ashlar, and sometimes "cyclopeian", using large polygonal blocks, partly shaped to fit each other, somewhat in the manner of the well-known Inca masonry, though not reaching that level of quality."
     
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  13. steveg700

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    Cothons could be a unique district, maybe one replacing the harbor. Could function like an encampment in that walls protect units within. I mean, that's what cothons were for, right?
     
  14. Eagle Pursuit

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    Cothons were just the fortified military section of the harbor, not the whole thing. It could be a building, albeit not in R&F.
     
  15. Quis

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    The Plot thickens. :D

    In this trailer every little detail can hint at the next Civilization - until proven otherwise. :p

    Now we have connections from Etruscans to Carthage and Inca, thanks to Wikipedia. Maybe the hints in this scene are more indirect.
     
  16. bbbt

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    I'd probably guess North Africa/Middle Eastern over South/Central America based on the worker's appearance/dress. I feel like they'd go more stereotypically 'shirtless with loincloth' for incan slaves. Also it seems dryer, climate wise. The hills/trees do look more South American than the more rocky ones I'd associate with the Mediterranean, but it could also be dam/river bed.
     
  17. ArallanKing

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    probably canal lol
     
  18. Cywil

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    Canals could be an improvement. Either Assyrian qanats or Etruscan cuniculi.

    "The modern consensus is that the Etruscans had developed techniques of land-drainage and water-supply which involved tunnelling through the soft volcanic rock of the region. The most common form was the cuniculus (plural: cuniculi), which could take any form from trench to a complex system of tunnels. The uses were irrigation, drainage, diversion and supply. The Romans used the cuniculi of Veii to mine into the citadel.

    The cuniculi found in the volcanic tufo in and around Rome (similar to the qanats of Iran) were excavated by the Etruscans mainly for the collection of drinking water, and, secondly, in some cases, for drainage and irrigation purposes. Today most cuniculi have dried up; a few still collect a small amount of water. However, in Etruscan times the climate was wetter. Cuniculi are evidence of the high level of civilization achieved by the rural population of that time.

    The Etruscan kings are also credited with Rome's first notable hydraulic work. During the reign of Tarquinius Priscus in the 6th century BC, the low-lying areas of Rome were drained by means of a system of canals. The main canal, running from the Subura through the area that was to become the forum, was named the Cloaca Maxima"

    (quoted from www.romanaqueducts.info)
     
  19. CPWimmer

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    Carthage was seen to still be a City State in the most recent Let's Play w/ Chandragupta. As such, it is now close to impossible that Carthage is one of the last 3 Civ's.
     
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  20. Cywil

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    Even a female one - Tanaquil (Etruscan Thanchvil)

    "The daughter of a powerful Etruscan family in Tarquinii, Etruria, Tanaquil thought her husband would make a good leader, but since he was the son of an immigrant, he would not be able to gain power in Tarquinii, where they lived. Knowing this, Tanaquil encouraged him to move to Rome, which was not at the time dominated by a strong local aristocracy. Her strong prophetic abilities helped her to install Tarquin as king. (...)

    Tanaquil also played a role in the rise of Servius Tullius, the sixth king of Rome. Raising him as her own child, Tanaquil believed Servius would be the next successor to the throne. (...) When Tarquin was murdered, Tanaquil hid his death from her subjects, instead telling them that Tarquin appointed Servius as a temporary king until he got better. After gaining the people’s respect and commanding the kingship, Servius and Tanaquil announced Tarquin’s death."

    So her Leader Ability could be +1 bonus for Great Prophet points generating.
     
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