Triumvirate v6.0

[Alphawolf]

Triumvirate v6.2
Sections 1-3:

The Government of the Triumvirate

Section 1 The Federal Government

A) The Legislative Branch
I. This branch consists of one house known as Citizens Assembly.

II. The Citizens Assembly shall consist of all citizens of the Nation. The Citizens Assembly shall be presided over by the Censor.

III. Only the Citizens Assembly may decide five things: Declare War/Make Peace/Alliance, to change civics, to begin construction on a Great Wonder/National Wonder/Project, a change in Taxes (the science/treasury/culture meter) greater that 10% more than once every 10 turns, and where to build new cities.

IIIA. Exceptions to Change in taxes:

1. The President may change taxes up to 30% in the event of budget shortfall: our nation losing money instead of gaining or staying even. However the President must see that a vote is brought on the matter before the next Game Session.
2. The turn on which a technology is discovered the President may change taxes by as much as 50% but must see that a vote is brought on the matter before the next Game Session.​

IV. Decisions of the Citizens Assembly are made by a Floor Vote which is a poll carried by a simple majority.

IVA. A simple majority of a majority in this text unless otherwise specified means that the option which receives the most support wins.
IVB. Debates and Votes may be called and posted by any member of the Citizens Assembly.​

V. The Executive Branch must enforce a vote of the Citizens Assembly even if they disagree with the decision.

VI. The Citizens Assembly may bring a no confidence vote against the Triumvirate and impeach members of the Cabinet. Details in Section 7 Impeachment.


B) The Executive Branch

I. This branch consists of the Triumvirate and any and all elected and appointed Cabinet Officials and their deputies.

IA. The Triumvirate will consist of the President, Secretary of State, and the Secretary of War.
IB. The Cabinet Officials will be any office that is not included as part of the Triumvirate, the Judiciary, a Gubernatorial office or the Designated Player. The Cabinet currently consists of the Censor, Minister of Interior, Minster of Culture, Minister of Science, and Director of Intelligence.​

II. The Powers and Duties of the Triumvirate.

1. The Triumvirate may change Cabinet Offices in a manner prescribed in Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause III.
2. During a time of War the Triumvirate may decide that a state of mobilization is necessary for [our nation] and declare that a State of Mobilization exists.
3. The Triumvirate appoints the Director of Intelligence.
4. Any member of the Triumvirate may post an order to stop the game session if certain posted criteria posted by that member are met and such criteria fall under the scope of the member’s office.

A. Any member of the Triumvirate may endorse a stop order posted by a member of the Cabinet, if such order is within the scope of Cabinet member’s office. A member of the Triumvirate must endorse a Cabinet member’s stop order for said order to be legal.​

5. State of Mobilization

A. A State of Mobilization can only be declared in a time of War.
B. A State of Mobilization may not last more than 15 game turns. However, if Peace is declared and a State of War exists with no Civilization, the State of Mobilization ends immediately.
C. A State of Mobilization may not be declared until at least 45 game turns have elapsed since the ending of the last Mobilization.
D. A State of Mobilization may be ended prematurely by a 6/10 (60%) vote of the Governors Council after at least 7 game turns of Mobilization have passed.

i. Should Mobilization be ended prematurely, it may be declared again in only 25 game turns.​

E. Effects of Mobilization:

i. The control of all workers goes the Triumvirate during this period, but the Minister of the Interior and the Governors retain control of a worker until a worker is specifically requested by the Triumvirate. The Triumvirate may not force a worker to quit an action assigned to it by the Minister of the Interior or a Governor, but must wait until that particular action has completed or is ended by the original authority.
ii. The Triumvirate may change what is under construction in any city except for those that have begun a Citizen Assembly approved Wonder or have begun prebuild for approved Wonder. The Triumvirate may only order that military units or building may be built.
iii. The Triumvirate may take up to one half of the prewar garrison of a city in to the regular army during a State of Mobilization.​

IIA. The Powers and Duties of the President

1. During the Turnchat the President, or a Representative of the President, may order the ending of play if continuing requires a decision to be made that can only be made by the Citizens Assembly. If the Turns are being played offline the Designated Player must end play if he is forced to make a decision that can only be made by the Citizens Assembly, provided that no vote on said decision has concluded.
2. The President will define a budget that all other official may not exceed without permission.
3. The President may change the Tax slider no more than 10% every 10 turns, with these exceptions:

A. The President may change taxes up to 30% in the event of budget shortfall: our nation losing money instead of gaining or staying even. However the President must see that a vote is brought on the matter before the next Game Session.
B. The turn on which a technology is discovered the President may change taxes by as much as 50% but must see that a vote is brought on the matter before the next Game Session.​

4. The President is responsible for resolving disputes between officials.
5. The President has all powers not expressly given to another official and not retained by the Citizens Assembly.
6. The units the President controls:

A. The President shall control all Settler and the defensive units assigned to them.
B. The President shall control all naval units.​

IIB. The Powers and Duties of the Secretary of State

1. The Secretary of State shall have control of the Foreign policy of our nation with the exception in the Declaration of War/Peace/Alliance and the trade of cities.

A. The Secretary of State needs the permission of the Citizens Assembly: War/Peace/Alliance or the giving away of one of our Nation's cities.
B. The Secretary of State has the power to accept a city.​

IIC. The Powers and Duties of the Secretary of War

1. The Secretary of War shall have control of all military land units with the exception of garrisons under the control of Governors and units assigned to settlers.

A. The Secretary of War may not attack a city or unit of a neutral or allied Civilization, without the permission of the Citizens Assembly.​

2. The Secretary of War shall have control of all air units.​

III. The Cabinet

1. Changes in the Offices of the Cabinet.

A. The Triumvirate may Decree a change in powers or offices of the Cabinet.
B. All Officials who are affected by a Decree must consent to it for the Decree to become official.
C. Any Citizen may within 72 hours of the Official Decree start a non-conformation Poll. Should said poll be approved the Decree will not take place.
D. Any changes done by Decree are in effect only during the term in which the Decree was made. To make the changes permanent an Amendment must be approved.​

IIIA. The Cabinet shall consist of, in order of seniority, the Censor, Minister of Interior, Minster of Culture, Minister of Science, and Director of Intelligence.
IIIB. The Powers and Duties of the Censor:

1. The Censor shall post his Procedures of Censorship at the beginning of his term, defining how Official Polls will take place during his tenure.

A. The Censor must obey the Procedures that he laid down for his term.​

2. The Censor shall be the Official in charge of all elections.
3. Censor shall be responsible for the official results of an election and for validating an election.
4. The Censor is also responsible for validating any other official polls.
5. The Censor posts all votes by the Assembly as instructions as needed.
6. The Censor shall be responsible for maintaining a list of names for the naming of cities, units, and other appraise items, approved by the Citizens Assembly.​

IIIC. The Powers and Duties of the Minister of Interior:

1. The Minister of the Interior shall be in control of all workers not assigned to Governors.
2. The Minister of the Interior shall designate any specialization of Cities
3. The Minister of the Interior shall designate how many units of each type to produce.

A. The Governors may work it out amongst themselves on which city actually produces what.​

4. The Minister of the Interior may decide where to build any Citizens Assembly approved Wonder.
5. The Minister of the Interior shall keep track of the resources in our territory and where they are.
6. The Minister of the Interior shall control all Great Engineers.​

IIID. Powers and Duties of the Minister of Culture:

1. The Minister of Culture shall keep track of the Culture buildings in each city, the Culture of each city, and the religions in each city throughout the Empire, and shall may this information available to any citizen upon request.
2. The Minister of Culture shall control all Great Artists, Great Merchants, and Great Prophets.
3. The Minister of Culture shall be in charge of all Missionaries.
4. The Minister of Culture will keep list of all of our Cities, their current culture level, how fast they are gaining culture, a projection of when they will next increase in culture, their current level on the Great Person Bar, how much is being gained on that bar per turn and when that city will produce a Great Person.
5. The Minister of Culture may require a culture building to be built in a City once every 4 buildings, if none of the previous 3 buildings produced any culture. And what building it shall be.​

IIIE. Powers and Duties of the Minister of Science:

1. The Minister of Science shall choose what technology will be researched.
2. The Minister of Science shall keep a list of at least three technologies that are to be researched next and in what order.
3. The Minister of Science shall control all Great Scientists.​

IIIF. Powers and Duties of the Director of Intelligence:

1. The Director of Intelligence shall keep records of all known Empires; the cities, religion, military units, wonders, and civics of those Empires. Records shall also be kept of the size, religion, improvements, and anything else deemed necessary about their cities.
2. The Director of Intelligence shall have complete control of all spies.
3. The Director of Intelligence shall be appointed by the Triumvirate.
4. The Director of Intelligence, being an appointed position, shall not be affected by term limits.
5. The Director of Intelligence may be fired by the Triumvirate.​

IV. Vacancies

IVA. A Vacancy occurs when an office is empty due to one of the following reasons: no one ran for the office, the office holder resigns, the office holder is removed from office by impeachment, the office holder is removed from office as punishment for a crime, or if the office holder is removed from office by the Judiciary if said office holder is absent for more than 7 days without the office holder posting notification.
IVB. Should a vacancy occur in the Triumvirate the President shall take over the duties of the vacant office. Should the Presidency be the vacant office the Secretary of State shall take over the duties of the President. Should both the offices of President and Secretary of State be vacant the Secretary of War shall take over the duties of both offices. Should the entire Triumvirate be vacant the most senior of the Cabinet members shall take over the duties of Triumvirate until a special election can be held.
IVC. Should any vacancy occur in the Cabinet the Deputy shall take over the duties of that office. Should there not be a deputy the President shall appoint an office holder.
IVD. Should a vacancy occur in a Gubernatorial office it will be fill in a manner proscribed in Section 2, Sub-section I, Clause IB.
IVE. Should a vacancy occur in the Judiciary the President shall appoint the Judge.
IVF. Any Citizen may post a nonconforming poll within 48 hours of the official announcement of an appointment.​

Section 2 The Local Government

A) Governors
I. Governors are the elected officials that run cities or states.

IA. The Powers and Duties of the Governors:

1. The Governors may move any workers or garrison units assigned to them anywhere in there city's radius or state boundaries.
2. The Governor shall work with the Minister of the Interior to decide which improvement shall be built.
3. The Designated Player shall act as Governor of any cities build during his play session at the end of which, the office is declared vacant.
4. The first elected governor of a city or state may select the official flag of that city or state.​

IB. Powers and Duties of the Governors Council:

1. The Governors Council shall not exist until there are at least three Governors. Until then vacant Gubernatorial offices shall filled by an appointment of the Minister of the Interior.
2. The Governors Council shall consist of the Governors of all Cities and States.
3. Any vacant Gubernatorial office will be filled by an appointment of the Governors Council.
4. The Governors Council may veto the actions of any member of the Cabinet with a 6/10 (60%) majority.
5. The Governors Council may end a State of Mobilization prematurely by a 6/10 (60%) vote after at least 7 game turns of Mobilization have passed.​

IC. States

1. No states may be created until our Civilization owns at least five cites.
2. A minimum of 3 cities must exist in a proposed state at the time of its creation.
3. The Creation of a state requires a 6/10 (60%) majority of both the Citizens Assembly and the Governors Council.​

II. States

IIA. States are groups of cities run by a single Governor.
IIB. Cities within states do not have their own Governor.

1. Governors of States may designate a civil government led by a Mayor in cities under their control.

A. Mayors may be appointed or elected in a special election depending on the wish of the Governor of the State. The way of choosing Mayors does not need to be the same for all Cities in a given State.​

2. A Governor of a State chooses how many cities if any will have Mayors in a given term.​

IIC. The Capital of [Name of our Nation Here] will never be a part of a state.​

Section 3 Items Several or All Offices

A) Standards of Conduct
I. Freedom of Information

IA. All elected officials will create an official thread. The Triumvirate will create a thread for official Triumvirate matters in addition to their own offices. This thread will be used to provide updates to the citizens about their office. The information in this thread should updated frequently in order to accurately reflect the current game situation.​

II. Polling Standards

IIA. The description and initial post for all official polls should be stated in a clear and neutral manner.
IIB. The initial post should contain a link to all relevant discussion threads. Each option should be explained if not immediately clear. The time frame for the poll, and how the results will be interpreted should also be in the initial post.
IIC. All official polls must be open for a minimum of 2 days to be binding, however it is recommended that binding polls be open from 3 to 4 days if possible.
IID. Official polls should be marked Public unless directly concerning another Citizen.​

B) Deputies

I. Deputies

IA. Members of the Triumvirate and Judiciary shall not have a Deputy.
IB. All members of the Cabinet and Governors shall have a Deputy, appointed by the principals of those respective offices.​

C) Control of Units

I. Workers

IA. Workers, when created, are under the control of the President. The President must assign the workers to either the Minister of the Interior or a Governor before or after a play session; if the worker is not so assigned it will be under the control of the Designated Player for the duration of the play session.
IB. The assignment of a worker is permanent unless the party that has control over the worker releases it back to the President.​

II. Military Land Units

IA. Military Land Units, when created, are under the control of the Secretary of War.
IB. The Secretary of War may assign units to guard settlers or as garrisons in cities.

1. Units assigned to guard settlers are under the control President until the settler founds a city. At the founding of a city the President may assign the units guarding that settler to be part of that city’s garrison or may shift control back to the Secretary of War as long as at least one half of the units, rounded up, that guarded the settler become part of the city’s garrison.
2. Units assigned as garrison units fall under the direct control of the Governor of that city.​

IC. Should a unit be left unmoving in a city or a city radius for at least 5 consecutive turns the governor of that city may claim that unit as a garrison unit as long as it has not started to move again.

1. There are three exceptions: if a unit is healing, the 5 turns start when healing is completed; if the unit is in defensive works of some sort; or if the unit is picketing the border.​

 

[Alphawolf]

Triumvirate v6.2
Sections 4-10:

Section 4 The Designated Player

A) The Designated Player
I. The Designated Player is the person who is tasked to perform the instructions of the officials in the game.

II. The President shall choose on a session by session basis on whether he shall be the Designated Player of that session or if the session will be played by a member of the Designated Player Pool.

III. Nominations and elections for the Designated Player shall occur at the time as the other nominations and elections.

IIIA. Elections for Designated player shall be a multiple choice poll with any and all nominees gathering over 50.00% being elected to the Designated Player Pool.
IIIB. The Designated Players will play in the order of those who did not play in the last term in order of votes from highest to lowest followed by those who did play last term in order of votes from highest to lowest. Once the Designated Player pool is used up, the rotation starts again at the top of the list.​

IV. A Designated Player shall choose whether his Play Session will be online or offline.

V. If the Designated Player is unavailable to play at the designated time, the highest ranking member of the Triumvirate, or if no Triumvirate members are present, or those present decline to play the highest ranking Cabinet member, or if no Cabinet members are present, or those present decline to play a member of the Designated Player pool at the chat can choose to play the session in place of the Designated Player who is absent or the session can be canceled.

VA. In this instance the absent Designated Player loses his slot until the next run through.​

VI. If the results of an Offline Session are not posted within 48 hours of the designated starting time that game session is declared void and canceled and that Designated Player is skipped and the next Designated Player takes over.

B) Actions of the Designated Player
I. Instructions of Elected and appointed officials:

IB. The Designated Player shall follow all instructions from elected and appointed officials regarding their respective areas.

1. If no instructions from a given office are posted for a game session the Designated Player assumes the powers of that office for the game session.
2. The Designated Player must refuse all illegal instructions. The Designated Player may request a Judicial Review to determine the validity of an instruction and delay play until the Judicial Review has been completed.​

IB. Legal Exploits

1. Any Legal Exploits pertaining to Article E section 4 of the Constitution will go here.​

Section 5 Elections

A) Elections
I. Elections of the Triumvirate, Cabinet, Governors, and Judges shall be of all nominated candidates who have accepted their nominations.

IA. Ballots shall have the names of all the candidates for a given office plus Abstain.​

II. Nominations for Triumvirate, Cabinet, Governors, and Judges positions may be self nominations or a citizen may be nominated by another citizens.

III. Elections may only be held for offices that exist at the time of election.


Section 6 Term Limits

A) Term Limits
I. Holder of Triumvirate and Cabinet offices are affected by term limits.

II. No one may be elected to the same Triumvirate or Cabinet office for more that two terms consecutively.

III. After serving two terms in the same Triumvirate or Cabinet office a Citizen must wait at least one term before running for the same office but may run for and hold any other office.


Section 7 Impeachment

A) Impeachment of the Triumvirate
I. The Citizens Assembly may bring a No Confidence Vote against the Triumvirate as a whole.

II. A No Confidence Vote requires a 6/10 (60%) majority to pass.

III. A successful No Confidence Vote shall remove the entire Triumvirate from office.

B) Impeachment of Cabinet Officials
I. The Citizens Assembly may bring an Impeachment Vote against any Cabinet Official.

II. An Impeachment Vote requires a 51/100 (51%) majority to pass.

III. A successful Impeachment Vote shall remove the specific official named in it from office.

C) Impeachment of Governors
I. Governors may not be Impeached.

D) Impeachment of Judges
I. Judges may not be Impeached..

E) Impeachment Polls
I. Impeachment Polls will have three options Yes, No, and Abstain.

II. Impeachment Poll may be started no earlier that 7 days after a previous one on the same office during the same term.


Section 8 Limit to Running and Holding Offices

A) Limits to Running for Offices.
I. No Citizen may run for more than one office during an election cycle.

B) Limits to Holding Offices.
I. No member of the Triumvirate or the Judiciary may hold a second office.

IA. An exception to this is a member of the Triumvirate assuming the duties and powers of a vacant Triumvirate office.​

II. A member of the Cabinet may hold one other Cabinet office, Gubernatorial office or a Deputy position.

III. A Governor may hold one other Gubernatorial office, a Cabinet office, or a Deputy position.

IV. A citizen with no other positions may hold two Deputy positions.

V. Being a member of the Designated Player Pool is not considered holding an office and thus is not counted against a Citizen in terms of being able to run for and hold multiple offices.


Section 9 Code of Standards

A) Creating a Code of Standards
To create a Code of Standards a poll will need to be taken and with more yea votes being cast than nay votes. Different proposals may then be considered. A poll will be taken between the different proposals with the winning one being put up for ratification. The ratification poll will need at least 50.01% of votes cast not counting abstains to vote yea to ratify the Code of Standards.


Section 10 Amending the Code of Laws

A) Amending the Code of Laws
I. The Code of Laws may be amended by a 60% majority of votes cast in a public poll which shall be open for no fewer than 4 days.

II. Minor changes to the Code of Laws, such as correcting typographical and clerical errors, reorganization and reformatting for better readability, and addition of text which does not impact legal definitions may be made at any time.

IIA. If any citizen objects to a minor change within the 48 hour period commencing when the minor change is proposed, the change shall be considered an amendment and must undergo ratification as such.​

B) Steps to Amend the Code of Laws
I. A Citizen posts an idea about the amendment as a thread.

II. Amendment is debated in the thread.

III. After at least 48hours the proponent posts a proposed poll.

IV. Once 24 hours have passed with no significant comments to the thread poll, the issue goes to the Judiciary for review.

V. If and after Judicial Review passes, the ratification poll is posted by the Judiciary.

 

[Alphawolf]

Change Log of 5.3 to 6.0:

Section 1, Sub-Section A, Clause IV Changed: for clarity.
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause I, Sub-Clause IB Changed: for conciseness
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause II, Point 1 Added
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause III, Point 1 Changed: in it’s entirety
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause III, Sub-Clause IIIB Changed due to comments
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause III, Sub-Clause IIIC, Changed due to comments
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause IV, Sub-Clause IVA Added
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause IV, Sub-Clause IVD Added
Section 2, Sub-Section A, Clause I, Sub-Clause IB, Point 1 added
Section 3 Fixed and Updated
Section 4 Updated and Changed
Section 5 Condensed

Changes made 12:25 12-25-2005

Section 3, Sub-Section A, Clause II, Sub-Clause IIA Removed because of conflict.
Section 4 Changed: some parts that were supposed to be bolded were not, that is fixed.

Changes made from 6.0 to 6.1

Section 1, Sub-Section A, Clause III Changed: 30% once every 5 turns changed to 10% once every 10 turns
Section 1, Sub-Section A, Clause III, Sub-Clause IIIA Added: explanation
Section 1, Sub-Section A, Clause IV Changed: for clarity and readability
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause II, Point 3 Added: for continuity
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause II, Sub-Clause IA, Point 3 Added: for continuity
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause II, Sub-Clause IIA Point 4: Added: The President is responsible for resolving disputes between officials

Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause IV, Sub-Clause IVE Added: was left out by accident
Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause I, Sub-Clause IF Added: was left out by accident
Section 2, Sub-Section A, Clause II Added for Clarification of States
Section 3, Sub-Section A, Clause I, Sub-Clause IA: Changed: Triumvirate must create official thread in addition to the separate offices of the members

Section 4, Sub-Section A, Clause II Changed: President now chooses by session not by term
Section 4, Sub-Section A, Clause III, Sub-Clause IIIB Changed: Once the Designated Player pool is used up, the rotation starts again at the top of the list, Added to IIIB

Section 4, Sub-Section A, Clause V Added: In case of the absence of the Designated Player
Section 4, Sub-Section A, Clause VI Added: requirement for offline sessions
Section 5, Sub-Section A, Clause III Added for clarification of elections
Section 8, Sub-Section B, Clause V Added: to clarify that a Citizen may be in the Designated Player Poll and run for and hold an office
Section 10, Sub-Section A, Clause II Changed: Corrected a typo
Section 10, Sub-Section B, Clause I Changed: Corrected a typo
Section 10, Sub-Section B, Clause V Changed: Corrected a typo and added the word ‘if'

Changes made from 6.1 to 6.2

Section 1, Sub-Section B, Clause II, Point 4 Added: Stop orders.
Section 6 Added: Term Limits added due the results of the polls.

Changes made at 04:37PM CST 12-27-2005

Section 6, Sub-Section A, Clause II Changed: from "may hold" to " may be elected to"

-the Wolf

 

[koondrad]

Can you define what a "State" is please? It is metioned in Section 2, Sub-section A, Clause I, Sub-Clause IC.

 

[DaveShack]

Can you define what a "State" is please? It is metioned in Section 2, Sub-section A, Clause I, Sub-Clause IC.

A State (or Province) is a collection of cities which are managed by a governor. In previous DemoGames, we have usually had geographic boundaries for states / provinces. This game we may also do it that way, or we may have a disjoint collection.

There is some disagreement about whether State or Province should be the term to use. Many people find State to be too US-centric given that this is a very international game.

 

[Alphawolf]

There is some disagreement about whether State or Province should be the term to use. Many people find State to be too US-centric given that this is a very international game.

I believe people from Germany, Australia, and Mexico plus whatever others I don't know about would disagree with you. Also the idea that provinces are the most common forms for subdividing nations is not true, from my research regions are the most common followed by districts. On a different note I thought about using Prefectures instead of States for a more Romanesque feel.

-the Wolf

 

[Mike Lemmer]

Speaking of states, the Constitution says a country can only be divided into states when it has at least 5 cities. However, all states must have 3 cities. Logically, any country must be divided into at least 2 states. So if we make a state when the country only has 5 cities, what do we do with the two extra cities? Will we allow some cities to stay outside a state? Will we treat new settled/conquered lands as territories?

 

[Mike Lemmer]

More details.

a change in Taxes (the science/treasury/culture meter) greater that 30% more than once every 5 turns

Could you clarify this? Are you saying if I wanted to bump Research down 40%, I could avoid any vote by bumping it down in 20% increments over 6 turns? Since a term would last at least 10 turns, I think any President could change it by 40+% without a vote as it currently stands.

And what about gold dumps? (Switching from mostly-Research to mostly-Gold after you research a new tech to upgrade units before you resume Research.) Would that require 2 votes? (One to switch to mostly-Gold, another one to switch back.) Could you combine that into one vote?

 

[DaveShack]

Speaking of states, the Constitution says a country can only be divided into states when it has at least 5 cities. However, all states must have 3 cities. Logically, any country must be divided into at least 2 states. So if we make a state when the country only has 5 cities, what do we do with the two extra cities? Will we allow some cities to stay outside a state? Will we treat new settled/conquered lands as territories?

• Until we have at least 5 cities, each one is an independent entity, with its own governor.
• When we build or acquire the 5th city, there are two options

1. A state of 3 or more cities and the remainder continue as independent cities, resulting in as few as 1 governor (if all 5 cities go into the state) and as many as 3 governors (1 state of 3 cities, 2 independents).
2. No state is created, in which case we stick with 5 independent cities.

• It should be clear from the above that creating a state eliminates at least one governor at the same time, unless we built / acquired two or more cities the same turnchat. (one governor could then keep the previous city and add the two additional ones to make a state, without taking away a governor position)

 

[ravensfire]

Hmmm, that's not entirely clear in the ruleset, DS.

AlphaWolf - this is an area that you might want to clarify and detail some. There are some gaps in there that I'm not getting the same impression as DS is, but that's because I can't figure out which way the ruleset, or you, goes.

-- Ravensfire

 

[Alphawolf]

DS is right in what I meant. Any thoughts on how I can clarify it with out putting in an example?

-the Wolf

 

[DaveShack]

Section 3 A IIA under polling standards:

IIA. Polls posted by an elected official on an area they control are considered official and binding unless specifically stated otherwise. Polls posted by citizens, by officials outside their area or by officials in their area explicitly noted as such are considered unofficial, and do not bind officials in any way.
​

has a conflict with section 1 A IVA on floor votes edit: specifically in the area that polls posted by non-officials (e.g. Assembly Floor Votes) are official

IVA. Debates and Votes may be called and posted by any member of the Citizens Assembly.​

Section 1 is correct, section 3 is a carryover from a time when we didn't have canonized floor votes.

 

[Alphawolf]

It will be removed shortly.

-the Wolf

 

[DaveShack]

Section 4 AII regarding the President being able to choose to play all sessions or use the DP pool: I'd suggest letting the President choose this on a session by session basis. For example, we elect 5 DPs. The President might want to play session 1, then let DP's 1-3 play (sessions 2-4), then President plays session 5, then DP's 4-5 play sessions 6-7.

Here are some more ideas...

If the DP is unavailable to play at the designated time, the highest ranking Tri or Cabinet member present at the chat can pick up the game and play in place of the DP who is AWOL. In this case, the DP loses his/her slot.

If the DP pool is used up, the rotation starts again at the top of the list.

And while I'm thinking here, if an offline session results are not posted within 48 hours of the designated starting time, the DP is skipped and the next DP takes over.

 

[Alphawolf]

Those are good ideas, I'll put them in in the morning. For now good night and

-the Wolf

 

[Mike Lemmer]

DS is right in what I meant. Any thoughts on how I can clarify it with out putting in an example?

-the Wolf

Add this to the beginning of it:
1. States are groups of cities run by a single governor.
(2. Cities within states do not have their own governor.)

 

[Alphawolf]

Thanks Mike

-the Wolf

 

[Alphawolf]

Version 6.2 is up; the Change Log is on the third post in this thread.

-the Wolf

 

[loveandpolitics]

Can you define what a "State" is please? It is metioned in Section 2, Sub-section A, Clause I, Sub-Clause IC.

In Political Science we generally use the term "state" to refer to refer to a country. The "correct" term would be province. The collection of provinces ruled by the central government (being sovereign) would then be The State. But then all these terms are purely cosmetic. Generally a state has more powers than a province though.

But then again, as I said, the choice is purely cosmetic. I like the prefecture suggestion though!

 

[DaveShack]

I suggest it's time to post a mock poll. Traditionally that is the way to inform the citizens that debate will close in 24 hours unless a killer comment comes up. We'll already be looking at elections starting before the ratification poll closes, which doesn't seem like a huge problem but has caused some doozies in the past.

Also for posterity's sake you probably want to copy the current version which the poll will refer to into new posts, just to be sure there can be no questions later on about if/when it was edited.