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Troopergate Verdict:Palin abused powers, broke no laws

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by sumit1207, Oct 10, 2008.

  1. sumit1207

    sumit1207 Prince

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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/palin.investigation/index.html
    Strangely enough, AP's article claims she unlawfully abused her powers.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_ge/palin_troopergate;_ylt=Aqhc9XbL7J.3rzxLWNd41exh24cA

    So, is good for McCain or Obama?
     
  2. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    How do you unlawfully do something without breaking the law?
     
  3. sumit1207

    sumit1207 Prince

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    The first sentence says unlawfully. Did she break a law or is this just sloppy journalism?
     
  5. sumit1207

    sumit1207 Prince

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    I'm thinking sloppy journalism on AP's part. CNN essentially said BREAKING:palin abused powers, but didn't break any laws.

    I'll change my OP to use the CNN article.
     
  6. AngryPinkMoose

    AngryPinkMoose Keep it classy

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  7. sumit1207

    sumit1207 Prince

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    Apparently not. The report says Palin's personal ties was a "likely contributing factor" to the commissioner's firing. I guess this isn't exactly illegal, but still abuse of power.
     
  8. Miles Teg

    Miles Teg Nuclear Powered Mentat

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    No, being a jerk isn't against the law. It's pretty much the expected verdict since the investigation began. Like I said, in Alaska, politicians prefer the honor code.
     
  9. AngryPinkMoose

    AngryPinkMoose Keep it classy

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    Thats a little confusing...at least to me. :lol:
     
  10. AngryPinkMoose

    AngryPinkMoose Keep it classy

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    Its still confusing to me. Isn't the abuse of one's power against the law??? And if it is that means Palin either did or did not abuse it.
     
  11. GoodGame

    GoodGame Red, White, & Blue, baby!

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    Download the report (from CNN) and check out page 8. Findings 1 and 2 basically explain it. Their conclusion was that she used executive powers within the scope of her assigned powers, but did so tainted by personal interest (hence the abuse of power), such that it was an ethics violation. Apparently the issue was grey enough before Alaskan law that it's not an automatic court case.

    Realistically, it's a semi-political issue being that the body doing the report is the legistlative branch. A logical progression would be to recommend that the judicial branch investigate, but it looks like the report didn't actually recommend that, but recommended more of a review of laws about complaints against police officers.

    I kind of think McCain should dump Palin, personally, so this might be a good excuse for doing so. I don't see Palin having much of a negative impact on Obama, so this probably just helps Obama a tiny bit.
     
  12. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    I wish I was in a position to abuse my power without breaking the law.

    The best I can do is f up my toaster in my backyard with a baseball bat to gangsta rap, and while that might be satisfying, it's not really the same thing.
     
  13. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    On a more serious note, I would never vote for someone who I saw putting their own personal interests in front of those of his/her constituents.

    Hopefully a lot of Americans were put off Palin by this report.
     
  14. Berzerker

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    well nice, abusing the authority of yer office is legal in Alaska ;)
     
  15. I'm Cleo!

    I'm Cleo! Deity

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    Have kids.

    Cleo
     
  16. woody60707

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    awww, I just came here to post this. :-(

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7662820.stm
    I don't think you can get more wishy washy then this. So shes guilty, kinda, no not really,.......maybe. Silliness.
     
  17. silver 2039

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    This is going to hurt McCain politically.
     
  18. Azale

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    Whoah...maverick.
     
  19. Elrohir

    Elrohir RELATIONAL VALORIZATION

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    Meh. This whole thing was over an irresponsible, dangerous, corrupt cop. While she may not have acted perfectly, I don't see this as a "personal interest" thing - she didn't take a bribe, or act corruptly. She sacked an abusive law enforcement officer who deserved to be dismissed.

    Don't get me wrong, I think Palin is a really awful choice. But this isn't one of the more compelling arguments against her.

    (And as an aside, "Troopergate" is a ******** 'scandal' name. We need to stop affixing -gate to everything. Yes, I know where it comes from - it's still stupid and tired and old.)
     
  20. I'm Cleo!

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    Similarly, what frustrates me is that Watergate wasn't about water. If something happened at the Watergate hotel now, it'd be Watergategate.

    Cleo
     

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