Yes, that is typically how it goes. Instead, he was abducted in the middle of the night, his partner was also threatened with arrest, and he was sent to an internment facility. If any charges had been laid against him, we'd certainly have heard about it.
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Yes, that is typically how it goes. Instead, he was abducted in the middle of the night, his partner was also threatened with arrest, and he was sent to an internment facility. If any charges had been laid against him, we'd certainly have heard about it.
Takes time, I guess.
Doesn't change the fact that he hasn't been. Folks are going to keep saying this until it sinks in.
What do you mean, "instead"?
You are describing an arrest.
4 days is a long time, true.
Are there rules for how long you can be arrested without charge?
4 days is long.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
Most states are 3 days, some are 2, but the explicit position of the Trump administration is that he isn’t being charged with a crime.
As was explained in an article posted by Broken Erika, one need not have committed a crime to be detained and deported: this in itself is nothing unprecedented or sensational.
EDIT: They are, however, entitled to a due process, including a hearing in court.
Broken_Erika
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Lawyers argue over moving detained pro-Gaza Columbia activist
In a Manhattan courtroom, lawyers for a detained Palestinian student activist argued Donald Trump's administration was attempting to restrict access to their client, as hundreds gathered to protest on his behalf.Mahmoud Khalil, a US permanent resident and Columbia University graduate, was detained over the weekend and faces deportation for his participation in 2024 protests at the campus over the war in Gaza.
Mr Khalil's legal team on Wednesday pushed to bring him back from a detention centre in Louisiana where he was sent after his arrest in New York.
The judge did not issue a ruling at the hearing, but directed prosecutors to prove why the case should take place elsewhere.
Mr Khalil is a green card holder and is married to an American citizen, but his attorney said that when he was arrested, agents told him the green card was being revoked. Earlier this week, Judge Jesse Furman blocked President Donald Trump's attempt to deport him.
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has said the arrest was part of its effort to fulfil Trump's executive order that prohibits antisemitism. It accused Mr Khalil of leading "activities aligned to Hamas" - the Islamist group based in Gaza that the US has designated a terrorist organisation - but provided no details.
The BBC has asked the DHS for further information on the allegations.
Absent from Wednesday's hearing was Mr Khalil, who is being held in Jena, Louisiana, after he was initially sent to a New Jersey facility Sunday, his lawyers said. Government lawyers argued in court that the deportation case should play out in Louisiana or New Jersey.
The judge will not issue a ruling on the jurisdiction or where Mr Khalil will be held until both sides file motions this week, including prosecutors' reasoning for moving the case away. They agreed the case should move "as expeditiously as possible", as Mr Khalil's attorney requested.
His lawyers said they had not been able to speak officially with their client by phone since his detainment and at times, did not know where he was. Judge Furman directed prosecutors on Wednesday to ensure phone access.
The judge also ruled that documents in Mr Khalil's case be made public, citing the "significant public interest" in the case.
Trump has said Mr Khalil's arrest is the first of "many to come", pledging to crack down on college protesters who he accuses of sympathising with Hamas.
His detainment has sparked nationwide protests. Outside of court, demonstrators chanted and waved flags in support of Mr Khalil and Palestinians. Among the protesters was actress Susan Sarandon, who told the BBC that Trump officials were trying to "disappear" Mr Khalil.
Mr Khalil's lawyer Ramzi Kassem said outside court that his case should "outrage anybody in the United States who thinks speech should be free".
US civil rights advocates, lawmakers and some Jewish groups have said that deporting Mr Khalil would violate American due process rights and is an attack on free speech.
The Immigration and Nationality Act allows the State Department to deport noncitizens who are "adversarial to the foreign policy and national security interests" of the US. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Wednesday that the US could deport visa and green card holders for "virtually any reason".
Still, legal experts said the case against Mr Khalil is unprecedented.
"Targeting individual protesters just for protesting ... is highly unusual and something that we haven't seen before, even under the first Trump administration," said Jacob Hamburger, a visiting assistant professor at Cornell Law School.
Mr Khalil's wife, who has not been named, detailed her husband's arrest in a statement released by their lawyers on Tuesday. She said that the pair were confronted by immigration agents on Saturday when they returned to their apartment from a dinner.
The officials did not provide a warrant or a reason for arrest, she said, and ended a call to the couple's lawyers. They then handcuffed Mr Khalil and forced him into an unmarked car.
"Watching this play out in front of me was traumatizing: It felt like a scene from a movie I never signed up to watch," she said.
Mr Khalil - who was born in Syria to Palestinian refugees - has been in immigration detention since his arrest, first in New Jersey and then Louisiana.
"Instead of putting together our nursery and washing baby clothes in anticipation of our first child, I am left sitting in our apartment, wondering when Mahmoud will get a chance to call me from a detention center," Mr Khalil's wife, who is eight months pregnant, said.
Mr Khalil has long maintained that he simply acted as a spokesperson and mediator for the Columbia student protesters.
Critics have accused him of leading Columbia University Apartheid Divest (Cuad) - a student group that demanded the school divest from Israel and called for a ceasefire in Gaza - which the Palestinian activist has denied.
Columbia was just one college campus that played host to mass student protests after the war erupted in Gaza. Some are now concerned that the Trump administration is attempting to silence potential detractors by targeting protesters who are not US citizens.
But critics of Mr Khalil and some students protesting over the war in Gaza have in recent weeks reportedly advocated for the deportation of Mr Khalil and other protesters.
Trump appeared to respond to these calls when he posted on social media on Monday about Mr Khalil's detainment.
"We know there are more students at Columbia and other Universities across the Country who have engaged in pro-terrorist, anti-Semitic, anti-American activity, and the Trump Administration will not tolerate it… We will find, apprehend, and deport these terrorist sympathizers from our country - never to return again," the president wrote.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gp613029eo
Funny how Trump was raging on his ersatz-Twitter account that Canada was stooping so low as to use electricity as a bargaining chip and that they would face a price to be remembered in the history books... yet when Israel did that to Gaza earlier this week, there was not a peep from him.
Velegon
Chieftain
You are forgetting the Trump mantra - treaties, rules and laws are for thee but not for me ...
H4run
Deity
The guy is a psychopath or, at best, an extreme narcissist. He is devoid of the ability to sympathize or empathize. You wonder why he can't put himself in other people's shoes, but that is precisely the mental faculty that is either broken (from brain injury perhaps?) or failed to develop in his brain (lack of certain nutrition or his upbringing fail to stimulate that part of his brain).
Please stop demanding the impossible Arakhor.
Thorgalaeg
Deity
Typical psycopath characteristics:
Pathological lying and manipulation
Lack of Remorse
Impulsivity
Grandiose sense of self
Shallow emotions
Need for stimulation
Not taking responsibility
Poor behavioral controls
Aggressiveness
Criminal versatility
Early behavioral problems
Irresponsibility
Manipulation of others
Callous and unemotional traits
Promiscuous sexual behavior
I think we have a full
Pathological lying and manipulation
Lack of Remorse
Impulsivity
Grandiose sense of self
Shallow emotions
Need for stimulation
Not taking responsibility
Poor behavioral controls
Aggressiveness
Criminal versatility
Early behavioral problems
Irresponsibility
Manipulation of others
Callous and unemotional traits
Promiscuous sexual behavior
I think we have a full
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The French make a statement with the emergence of a steel baguette off the Canadian east coast.
Spoiler :
Broken_Erika
Play with me.
Trump’s FBI Moves to Criminally Charge Major Climate Groups
The Trump administration is targeting climate organizations that received a Biden-era grant.
The FBI is moving to criminalize groups like Habitat for Humanity for receiving grants from the Environmental Protection Agency under the Biden administration.Citibank revealed in a court filing Wednesday that it was told to freeze the groups’ bank accounts at the FBI’s request. The reason? The FBI alleges that the groups are involved in “possible criminal violations,” including “conspiracy to defraud the United States.”
“The FBI has told Citibank that recipients of EPA climate grants are being considered as potentially liable for fraud. That is, the Trump administration wants to criminalize work on climate science and impacts,” the @capitolhunters account wrote Wednesday on X. “An incoming administration not only cancels federal grants but declares recipients as criminals. All these grantees applied under government calls FOR ENVIRONMENTAL WORK, were reviewed and accepted. Trump wants to jail them.“
The Appalachian Community Capital Corporation, the Coalition for Green Capital, and the DC Green Bank are just some of the nonprofits being targeted.
“This is not fraud. This is targeted harassment,” @capitolhunters continued. “The idea of criminalizing community climate work wouldn’t have originated at the FBI—it likely comes from EPA director Lee Zeldin, who today cut all EPA’s environmental justice offices, which try to reduce pollution in poor and minority communities.”
Zeldin’s order eliminates 10 EPA regional offices as well as the headquarters in Washington, D.C.
https://newrepublic.com/post/192660/trump-fbi-charge-climate-organizations
Jeez we're already into fabricating criminal charges against perceived ideological opponents of the regime.
Seems pretty outdated to be arguing about whether they would truly stoop to illegally disappearing a single permanent resident when they'll clearly happily criminalise entire swathes of civil society.
Seems pretty outdated to be arguing about whether they would truly stoop to illegally disappearing a single permanent resident when they'll clearly happily criminalise entire swathes of civil society.
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GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
Can we all just take a second to appreciate how wild this is? A NATO country and former ally is sending a nuclear sub across the Atlantic to bolster another NATO country and former ally because the third country (NATO too and the one that is no longer an ally) is threatening annexation. There is absolutely nobody who could have ever imagined something like this, ever. At no point did France or Canada ever think they would need to make a show of force in the Atlantic like this.
Americans should do the world a favor and just yeet their entire country into the sun.
H4run
Deity
They have always acted like a black bear. Republicans show their teeth openly, while Democrats speak of flowers and holding hands but still decapitate your limbs despite the polite and friendly formality, just like the father of drones Obama. Now, those claws have turned on their own allies and citizens. That leviathan has gone rouge.
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Err, do we know it is that? I have no idea if French subs showing up at allied bases is in any way unusual.
A boring narrative wouldn’t get those ad income clicks and necessarily political points.
Can we just start off that a nuclear-powered sub is not the same as one carrying a nuclear weapon?
Verbose
Deity
It specified it's a nuclear attack submarine, so one of the boats part of the ESNA (Escadrille des sous-marins nucléaire d'attaque). As opposed to the four boats of the "Force a disuassion", that are nuclear armed ballistic missile subs.
If it's supposed to do something violent, it's there to sink ships, not level cities.
If it's supposed to do something violent, it's there to sink ships, not level cities.
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