GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
All 1500 Jan 6th terrorists are free. No way to recover from that. State sanctioned coups and violence. Game over.
[RD] Trump in Charge: The MAGA Presidency
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KMRblue1027
Deity
Just announced withdrawing from the WHO with bird flu probably mere months away from flipping H2H. Honeslty as bad as anything else said today this might be the cake. A lot of people are about to die and not just here.
I'm not sure how many of the violent ones he left out.
The Proud Boys leader serving 22 years got a pardon though.
Trump pardons roughly 1,500 criminal defendants charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack
The sweeping pardons mark the beginning of the end of one of the largest investigations in FBI history.
www.nbcnews.com
There is no birthright citizenship amendment. Birthright citizenship for the children of legal immigrants comes from Supreme Court interpretation of the 14th Amendment (US v. Wong Kim Ark). The issue of illegal immigration and birthright citizenship has never been directly dealt with. It was addressed in dicta in Plyler v. Doe.
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
He’s straight up ordering the DOJ to drop cases and firing immigration judges, both would be unprecedented, earth-rattling scandals in ‘ordinary’ times, but here and now it doesn’t matter.
BenitoChavez
What business is it of yours?
Surely that must be taken out of context. Surely he's just doing a metaphor or something. Maybe he believes America will 'take off' like his SpaceX rockets take off. Surely....
Oh dear god he did it twice
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
TikTok is blocking “elon musk nazi” as a search lmao. All roads leads to collapse.
ThERat
Deity
you guys are all flipping out but no mention of the crazy fact that are sitting president can pardon people preemptively. What keeps a president from hiring contract killers then?
GoodEnoughForMe
n.m.s.s.
Well Trump already hired a contract killer to assassinate an ambassador in his first term so nobody cares
People are mixing definitions for preemptive pardons, so let’s clarify terms:
Type 1: Pardoning someone for an already committed act before they are prosecuted -> Legal, but generally not done
Type 2: Pardoning someone for an act they have not committed yet -> Illegal
BenitoChavez
What business is it of yours?
The 14th Amendment of the US Constitution said:
Again, the issue of illegal immigrant birthright citizenship has not been taken up by SCOTUS, only addressed in dicta based on a case from 100 years ago.
Furthermore, amendments are interpreted based on their meaning when they were enacted. So, unless you have a window into what the terms meant in the 1860s, just posting the language here ultimately doesn’t do much. It is a much deeper analysis than that.
Furthermore, amendments are interpreted based on their meaning when they were enacted. So, unless you have a window into what the terms meant in the 1860s, just posting the language here ultimately doesn’t do much. It is a much deeper analysis than that.
caketastydelish
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He stayed home Jan 6th and wasn’t physical present at the capital or in Washington DC so him getting pardoned is justified. People who were there that day and committed illegal activity getting pardoned is what I don’t get.I'm not sure how many of the violent ones he left out.
The Proud Boys leader serving 22 years got a pardon though.
Trump pardons roughly 1,500 criminal defendants charged in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack
The sweeping pardons mark the beginning of the end of one of the largest investigations in FBI history.
ThERat
Deity
thanks for the clarification. doesnt make it much better because you can still hire a contract killer and pardon the person 1 minute after the act
You’d have to pardon yourself too. You could still get impeached. Pardons don’t prevent impeachment.
Got cheers too. They know who they
Got cheers too. They know who they are.Surely that must be taken out of context. Surely he's just doing a metaphor or something. Maybe he believes America will 'take off' like his SpaceX rockets take off. Surely....
Oh dear god he did it twice
Please link to your source for that.
For official acts the president is now immune. No hired assassin is needed. Just order Seal Team 6 to do it.
Burdick v. US - SCOTUS outlined the difference between a pardon and immunity, stating that “a pardon includes an imputation of guilt and an acceptance of a confession of it.” You cannot be guilty of something that you haven’t even done yet. On the other hand, immunity can extend into the future.
