[RD] Trump in Charge: The MAGA Presidency

Voidwalkin said:
No King's Day evidently had good turnout. I feel like evaluating public opinion is foggier than ever before, though. We have more evidence millions do not like Trump, hardly relevatory, though.

Sometimes I read comments, but the echo chamber effect has ramped up several degrees seemingly everywhere. It's gotten really bad on Reddit. Any thread on Trump will be 99% low-effort criticism. Other sites are featuring 99% low effort criticism of Dems. I'm not saying they're all bots, but they could be, and I couldn't easily tell. Bots have lowered the standards and normalized bad dialogue, so much so that people now make comments in the same style. No estimate possible.

Opinion polls are more frequently inaccurate. Famously, Trump overperforms his polls in the election, and rarely is it extrapolated that his approval rating might similarly have the same forces at work, but one wonders. Estimate shaky as hell.

Politics feels pretty cliquey today. I couldn't tell you with extreme confidence that Trump is sub-50% approval. I'd guess 45 but low confidence.

I feel like losing likes, everywhere, and making it emotionless, without any investment or risk of reputation would basically totally change the dialogue. Upvotes: today's printing press? IDK, but it feels like a metamorphosis occurs whenever they are in play.
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I mean this fully sincerely: you need to stop obsessing over turning Reddit likes into a grand theory of politics, go outside and spend some time in the sunshine. Maybe take a nice walk in a park. It's summertime in America. The weather must be nice.
 
Arwon said:
I mean this fully sincerely: you need to stop obsessing over turning Reddit likes into a grand theory of politics, go outside and spend some time in the sunshine. Maybe take a nice walk in a park. It's summertime in America. The weather must be nice.
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tbh the opinions of Reddit are saner than those I hear in meatspace. Granted, yeah, they're pretty bad, but...

In recent discussions
-3 coworkers informed me that 9/11 was an inside job, complete with a barrage of details no sane person would bother to look into
-a different coworker informed me that the protests are a result of Jews stirring up division(this person is actually left, btw)
-a third casually dismissed the opinions of all female coworkers because of their gender
-a fourth informed me that tariffs are when the government gives money to factories(which, is, I guess, in a roundabout way, eh)
-a fifth was of the mind that genocide should be considered against coworkers of various skin colors
-a sixth told me he American Healthcare is a joke and we shoulda voted for Bernie
-a 7th told numerous callous jokes regarding the Kent State massacre

6/7, well, pretty bad. I'm not really sure if those people believe all those things. It is almost like there's a competition for attention IRL.
 
It's wild that these people feel comfortable telling you these things. Do you push back or quietly agree?

In my workplace I count three and possibly four of those being straight up code of conduct violations, shading into unlawful discrimination.

Aside from the guy just bagging US healthcare, that's just straight up true obvi.
 
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@Voidwalkin What kind of place do you work in and why are you still there? Hateful places are no fun at all.

And: 12.1 million people turned out for No Kings rallies all across the country.
 
On second thoughts it might be safer to maybe stop talking to coworkers and just spend MORE time on Reddit
 
Arwon said:
It's wild that these people feel comfortable telling you these things. Do you push back or quietly agree?

In my workplace I count three and possibly four of those being straight up code of conduct violations.

Aside from the guy just bagging US healthcare, that's just straight up true obvi.
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Occasionally. The genocide one, yeah. My money in jeopardy? No choice. Some, no. It's pretty easy to get run out if everybody hates you. They know I'm not sympatico by body language, and usually don't talk about it with me.

It's like that in all manufacturing jobs I've been(kinda an extensive list). Retail, too. Company policy is de facto applicable only in the office. The floor is different.
 
Birdjaguar said:
@Voidwalkin What kind of place do you work in and why are you still there? Hateful places are no fun at all.

And: 12.1 million people turned out for No Kings rallies all across the country.
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Missed this but kinda already answered it: they're all kinda like that, the whole sector, manufacturing. I stay cause it pays. In 6 months, I'll quit, won't have to work another six months, such is the rate of savings.

This particular factory is toxic, yeah, but not especially so, tbh. I worked at one plant where it got so bad they wrote people up for talking. Not talking ****, which is endemic everywhere in the field, and saying really outrageous things, also endemic, just talking - they had so little trust in the ability of their workers not to cause drama they just said **** it, if we catch ya jabbering for five minutes we're going after ya. I dunno if it worked. Too draconian, affront to my dignity, so I left.

The only field I worked in that was worse was oil extraction. Jesus. Those guys said all the crazy ****, were constantly high, red-eye high, got into fights, etc.
 
Man's a fascist

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Is that Trump talking? ^^^
 
Well they caught him apparently :
Boelter, a former political appointee, was once a member of the same state workforce development board as Hoffman.

He is a security contractor and religious missionary who has worked in Africa and the Middle East, according to his online CV.

Boelter once preached as a pastor at a church in the Democratic Republic of Congo, according to Facebook photos.

Investigators reportedly found a list of "targets" in the vehicle that the suspect is thought to have driven for the alleged shootings.
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www.bbc.com

Man suspected of shooting Minnesota lawmakers arrested after huge manhunt

Vance Luther Boelter is accused of killing Democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, and injuring two others.
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Why is Boelter, the guy who did the Minnesota political assassinations, being charged with SECOND degree murder? With people saying he had a hit list, his impersonation of being a police officer, his wearing of a latex mask and driving some distance between 2 crime scenes - how isn't that FIRST degree murder? As it seems obvious as being premeditated to me.
 
'Mr Boelter faces two counts of second-degree murder and two counts of second-degree attempted murder.'

What the Hell?

* Ah I see others already pointed it out.
 
EvaDK said:
'Mr Boelter faces two counts of second-degree murder and two counts of second-degree attempted murder.'

What the Hell?

* Ah I see others already pointed it out.
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Apparently in Minnesota, First degree murder charges require a grand jury indictment.
 
JollyRoger said:
Shouldn't Trump's ICE enforcement start with the states that voted for him in the highest numbers thus signaling that they want his policies inflicted on them the most?
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Yeah Texas and Florida reportedly have the 2nd and 3rd most illegal immigrants behind California and none of the cities Trump mentions are in those states.
 
Broken_Erika said:
Apparently in Minnesota, First degree murder charges require a grand jury indictment.
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Ya know looking at how the Minnesota law system works requiring a jury to upgrade charges to 1st degree murder and things like terrorism actually makes a lot of sense. Grand juries I know aren't the most reliable things but having heavy charges require them is probably a good idea. We here in NJ are one of the last holdouts that need them for most indictments too.
 
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